Caroline Flack

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Fish said:
maybe you should ask Phil why he follows Piers Morgan on Twitter, especially if he hates everything about the person because of his past Sun employment, why follow him, and attempt to interact with him, again isn’t that again the core of this situation, using social media to attack people, speaks volumes imo.

Let him who casts the first stone, and all that.......
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Probably for the same reason he reads the Brexit threads and complains about what people post on it.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I don’t follow anyone on twitter or anything - I’m not on any of twitter, instagram etc. I simply heard the reporting of JR tweet (and others) on the radio and just wondered why the need to publically emote - and I only assume celebs do it as they feel the need to let their thoughts known to their fans and followers - and the flip side of that being that these followers need to hear the views of those they follow - why would you follow someone if you didn’t feel a need to know their thoughts on stuff and things? - and I just don’t get that.

I would rather expect any decent person to feel shocked and sad. Would it not be simpler and in some ways more respectful in this sort of sad situation for celebs to do their grieving in private - or perhaps send a message to her partner if they had a close enough relationship with her. Would that not be what those suffering the loss need to have - and support.

I‘m not angry or irritated by this public tweeting of grief - just a bit baffled as to why...how did we ever manage to provide words of comfort and support in difficult times before social media burst on the scene and took over...I know what I do - I pray for her, her partner, her family and those closest to her. And I do that in private.
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In situations like these they act as an online condolences book - Twitter and Facebook etc are very powerful tools and on the main used very well to reach a lot of people - people coming out with messages about the young lady could easily show others in the same situation that they aren’t alone and there are friends out there that can help you in dark times.

Also all you need is someone you follow to quote others and you see it even if you don’t follow them yourself

Some of the celebs out there post a lot of insight and helpful stuff as well as showing a human side.

There is no wrong way for people to pass on their sympathy or thoughts- whether that be in private or in public as long as it comes from the right place with the right meaning behind it - and in a society where mental illness is becoming bigger the more people shout out in public the easier hopefully it is for people to see they aren’t alone.

It was the same when Kobe Bryant passed away - he was an icon in the states as a sportsman and people felt sad and showed their public emotions.

Modern society changes as each year goes by - we become more aware of others, social media is a very powerful tool that should be used as a positive

Fish said:
maybe you should ask Phil why he follows Piers Morgan on Twitter, especially if he hates everything about the person because of his past Sun employment, why follow him, and attempt to interact with him, again isn’t that again the core of this situation, using social media to attack people, speaks volumes imo.

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I don’t follow Piers Morgan ?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
In situations like these they act as an online condolences book - Twitter and Facebook etc are very powerful tools and on the main used very well to reach a lot of people - people coming out with messages about the young lady could easily show others in the same situation that they aren’t alone and there are friends out there that can help you in dark times.

Also all you need is someone you follow to quote others and you see it even if you don’t follow them yourself

Some of the celebs out there post a lot of insight and helpful stuff as well as showing a human side.

There is no wrong way for people to pass on their sympathy or thoughts- whether that be in private or in public as long as it comes from the right place with the right meaning behind it - and in a society where mental illness is becoming bigger the more people shout out in public the easier hopefully it is for people to see they aren’t alone.

It was the same when Kobe Bryant passed away - he was an icon in the states as a sportsman and people felt sad and showed their public emotions.

Modern society changes as each year goes by - we become more aware of others, social media is a very powerful tool that should be used as a positive



I don’t follow Piers Morgan ?
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“And if you don’t care what Jonathon Ross says on social media - don’t follow him”


?‍♂️?‍♂️
 
fundy said:
If you havent seen/heard Laura Whitmore on her breakfast show earlier then have a listen to her tribute in the first few minutes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000ffr8
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It was heartfelt and sincere. I'm guessing she was making reference to the likes of Piers Morgan but like everything in the social media tabloid world we live in, it'll all fall on deaf ears and be quickly forgotten about.

From a personal perspective, I got more upset at Ian Wright's emotion on Desert Island Discs when he spoke about his old teacher from school, nothing personal about Caroline Flack, as I said earlier, it was a sad and tragic ending but we meant nothing to me or mine so who knows what tomorrows headlines will be.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
In situations like these they act as an online condolences book - Twitter and Facebook etc are very powerful tools and on the main used very well to reach a lot of people - people coming out with messages about the young lady could easily show others in the same situation that they aren’t alone and there are friends out there that can help you in dark times.

Also all you need is someone you follow to quote others and you see it even if you don’t follow them yourself

Some of the celebs out there post a lot of insight and helpful stuff as well as showing a human side.

There is no wrong way for people to pass on their sympathy or thoughts- whether that be in private or in public as long as it comes from the right place with the right meaning behind it - and in a society where mental illness is becoming bigger the more people shout out in public the easier hopefully it is for people to see they aren’t alone.

It was the same when Kobe Bryant passed away - he was an icon in the states as a sportsman and people felt sad and showed their public emotions.

Modern society changes as each year goes by - we become more aware of others, social media is a very powerful tool that should be used as a positive



I don’t follow Piers Morgan ?
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Well someone you follow must, as you interact with his (PM’s) posts, that you don’t actually follow him is a technicality, because you still feel the need to interact with him, so if you don’t like him, or what he stands or stood for, why attack him with your posts for his past employment, why not just ignore them, even if they’re in reply to someone else in the responses to his post, you know he’ll see them, You know how it works, so in doing that, you are no different to the gutter press with their attacks, you’ve become compliant to the same social media abuse that’s being discussed, every negative, and sometimes abusive post in reply to posts you don’t agree with, are an attack on that individual.

So why not stand by your newly posted #BeNice tag, or are you just full of double standards and look to spin what you can to justify your trolling.
 
Hacker Khan said:
If the only criteria you are using is infant and child mortality rates. Which if you are in a dark place mentally, is probably not the 1st thing that springs to mind.
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I've been in many dark places in my 70 years. I was last year. But my approach is to always tough it out.
Life is not a bed of roses. Celebrities are in a false position and they need to stay grounded.
 
stefanovic said:
I've been in many dark places in my 70 years. I was last year. But my approach is to always tough it out.
Life is not a bed of roses. Celebrities are in a false position and they need to stay grounded.
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I’m a little bit surprised with your response if you have been through as much as you say.

I would of thought if you have such an understanding of your issues and how you cope/coped you’d be more tolerant and sympathetic to others.

Celebrities are still people and liable to the same weakness’s as the rest of us.

Unless we have been in their shoes I’d be hesitant in telling anyone how to deal with their own problems.
 
Really sorry to hear of this sad loss at such an early age and my thoughts fo out to her family and everybody connected with her.

However there are over 100 suicides I. The UK each week but ‘celebrity suicides’ seem to attract more attention. she had a successful career, probably no money issue, but other people who take their own life are initially perceived to be in a fat worse position.

RIP CF.
 
Personally don't feel this needs legislation.

It needs people to stop buying the sun, reading their website, stop buying the Daily Mail and reading that website, stop following Piers Morgan, Eamonn Holmes etc. Stop engaging with them on twitter. Stop watching GMB. Stop replying to these people on twitter. Stop commenting on tweets or facebook posts (regardless of what point you are making). Stop quote sharing their tweets etc and liking tweets of those who do.

Morgan has 7 million followers, which I personally find baffling. I know not all 7 million will be fans, but that's a crazy size of audience for him to have a direct line to.

Tabloid media culture exists in this country to make money. It exploits people at certain points in their life. They make money by eyeballs and subsequent ad revenue. If people stop watching / engaging / clicking, it disappears over night.

I have not bought or read a tabloid newspaper since 2007 and almost never click on a link to one (if it is someone I know personally or the odd sports or political story perhaps, but that's once or twice a year).

Ok, I don't watch Love Island or Big Brother, so find it much easier to avoid these types of story but folk have to apply a bit of common sense and discipline over what they consume in the media.
 
pauldj42 said:
I’m a little bit surprised with your response if you have been through as much as you say.
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I say that in life you have to stay grounded. There is a price to be paid for everything. I have learned that lesson.

I would of thought if you have such an understanding of your issues and how you cope/coped you’d be more tolerant and sympathetic to others.
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I do have empathy. A school friend took his own life at just 20. A distant relation also took his own life.

Celebrities are still people and liable to the same weakness’s as the rest of us.
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There is an organization called the Samaritans, which I have used in the past after bereavement. They have undoubtedly saved many lives.

Unless we have been in their shoes I’d be hesitant in telling anyone how to deal with their own problems.
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Problems are likely to be brought on by themselves over a period of time.
Programs like Love Island don't help (how many suicides now?)
 
No idea who she was till it appeared in the news. What a very sad tale.

I am astonished about some of the stuff on Twitter and even on here. Some folk have no idea. The post before this claims wisdom but demonstrates anything but. (Sorry Stef, no personal offence meant, but there are issues all over it.



stefanovic said:
I say that in life you have to stay grounded. There is a price to be paid for everything. I have learned that lesson. Lucky you - not everyone is so lucky


I do have empathy. A school friend took his own life at just 20. A distant relation also took his own life. Apologies for failing to spot the empathy!

There is an organization called the Samaritans, which I have used in the past after bereavement. They have undoubtedly saved many lives. Yes, but not this one or everyone

Problems are likely to be brought on by themselves over a period of time. Generalisation based on perception and no actual knowledge of the people in this case (I assume)
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If you need to delete posts, that's thread locking time in my view.
 
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