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I think at members clubs, where guys have played at the same times for 20 years the clubs have to accommodate this and be realistic.

However where clubs are taking visitors and tourists money, especially for weekend rounds, they need to accept they will pee off fee paying members.

Agree with the use it or lose it regular booking, although in reality you’d lose this on a wet and windy day.
 
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I think at members clubs, where guys have played at the same times for 20 years the clubs have to accommodate this and be realistic.

However where clubs are taking visitors and tourists money, especially for weekend rounds, they need to accept they will piss off fee paying members.

Agree with the use it or lose it regular booking, although in reality you’d lose this on a wet and windy day.
Very happy my club doesn't have booked times but I don't think having the same people able to book the same times is a good thing. Must make the club feel insular and very difficult to integrate for new members. There should be a way to limit how many times the same four ball names can book the same spot in a year
 
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Very happy my club doesn't have booked times but I don't think having the same people able to book the same times is a good thing. Must make the club feel insular and very difficult to integrate for new members. There should be a way to limit how many times the same four ball names can book the same spot in a year
Absolute garbage!
I’m happy with my Club and in 15 years never heard one of issue with people playing with their mates.
We pay a membership, we choose who we play with.
We have no issue integrating new members.
 

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Absolute garbage!
Why. You join a club, want to play at a prime time on a Saturday and get told you can't book 8.00am because Fred and his 4 ball have always had it for the last 20 years. Even going back way before automatic booking we use to have members at my old club sleeping in their cars outside the club from around 5.00am so they could get in and book their same tee time each week. Their four ball would take it in turns to turn up early to keep the booing going and would go mad if somehow someone got "their" slot even if they were shoved back to the next one at 8.08. It happens and I'd ask you to be a tad more respectful in your replies and to my opinion please
 
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Why. You join a club, want to play at a prime time on a Saturday and get told you can't book 8.00am because Fred and his 4 ball have always had it for the last 20 years. Even going back way before automatic booking we use to have members at my old club sleeping in their cars outside the club from around 5.00am so they could get in and book their same tee time each week. Their four ball would take it in turns to turn up early to keep the booing going and would go mad if somehow someone got "their" slot even if they were shoved back to the next one at 8.08. It happens and I'd ask you to be a tad more respectful in your replies and to my opinion please
So guys who have been members for 20, 30 + years, probably organise their family life around it and you suggest they should stand aside because a new member wishes to play at that time, how is that for them helping themselves integrate?
We have moved on with bookings, bookings are done on line or on an App.
Fred and his 4 Ball have exactly the same chance as the newby.
The newby will be welcomed with open arms, find plenty of people to play with, but he has no more right to a time than anybody else.
If you’re going to post garbage in my opinion then I’ll tell you.
 

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So guys who have been members for 20, 30 + years, probably organise their family life around it and you suggest they should stand aside because a new member wishes to play at that time, how is that for them helping themselves integrate?
We have moved on with bookings, bookings are done on line or on an App.
Fred and his 4 Ball have exactly the same chance as the newby.
The newby will be welcomed with open arms, find plenty of people to play with, but he has no more right to a time than anybody else.
If you’re going to post garbage in my opinion then I’ll tell you.
So a newbie has to acquiesce simply because these guys have done it for the twenty years. How is that possibly going to be enticing to a new member and do you really think these members will be happy to lose their slot to a newbie. It may work well at you club but I can think of a number where the established member would make whoever took their spot (newbie or another established member) aware that it's "theirs" and ask for them to move or certainly not book it te following week. If BRS can be done online and is "open to all" how come some clubs still get the same people booking the same slots?
 
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So a newbie has to acquiesce simply because these guys have done it for the twenty years. How is that possibly going to be enticing to a new member and do you really think these members will be happy to lose their slot to a newbie. It may work well at you club but I can think of a number where the established member would make whoever took their spot (newbie or another established member) aware that it's "theirs" and ask for them to move or certainly not book it te following week. If BRS can be done online and is "open to all" how come some clubs still get the same people booking the same slots?
You’re making it up and basing it on 20yr old information.
Why not ask people on here how their Club does it and if it works.
You’re accussing people of verbal bullying new members! You stated people should be limited to the amount of times they can play with the same people!
You’re the one quoting issues and problems and answers to situations that don’t exist.
We have 1 tied slot every Saturday and Sunday and that is for the Captain, he gets one 4 Ball slot each day at a time of his choosing as a perk, others take the chance, yes they might get one roughly around the same time, but that’s it, nobody gets priority.
How many new members do you get a year? Last year we got 8 spread over 6 months, should the other 300 members sit and wait for the newbies or do as we do now, talk to them, find out what time they fancy playing and then integrate them and get them known.
 

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Why. You join a club, want to play at a prime time on a Saturday and get told you can't book 8.00am because Fred and his 4 ball have always had it for the last 20 years. Even going back way before automatic booking we use to have members at my old club sleeping in their cars outside the club from around 5.00am so they could get in and book their same tee time each week. Their four ball would take it in turns to turn up early to keep the booing going and would go mad if somehow someone got "their" slot even if they were shoved back to the next one at 8.08. It happens and I'd ask you to be a tad more respectful in your replies and to my opinion please
People slept in their cars to book pre online booking. Sorry homie I’m calling BS on that, it’s not the Harrods sale🤣🤣🤣 surely before online it was just roll up???
Different solutions work best depending on the club. Mine has a mix, like all compromises it’s works ok. I’d have no issue with no booked tee slots, ball in the chute etc. Worked ok for years
 

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Very happy my club doesn't have booked times but I don't think having the same people able to book the same times is a good thing. Must make the club feel insular and very difficult to integrate for new members. There should be a way to limit how many times the same four ball names can book the same spot in a year

My club doesn’t have any booked times except for competitions.

They do have visitor groups who can book times, and these are communicated to members and in the diary well in advance,

But for members, you just have to turn up and wait your turn.

You can’t even book a time if you wanted, which will obviously seem foreign to people at clubs who have a strict tee sheet. However, it works. Maybe if they had an additional 200 members, it would be a problem.

Any time I’ve turned up and saw 8 or 10 guys on the tee, I’ve asked them for a game and had no problem playing. If you turn up with your mate, then you just need to wait 20 minutes.
 

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What’s the difference between a ball in the chute and booked tee times? Other than with the later you might have some idea of what time you tee off?

I assume roll ups get their ‘usual’ slot ‘reserved’ for them?!
 

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People slept in their cars to book pre online booking. Sorry homie I’m calling BS on that, it’s not the Harrods sale🤣🤣🤣 surely before online it was just roll up???
Different solutions work best depending on the club. Mine has a mix, like all compromises it’s works ok. I’d have no issue with no booked tee slots, ball in the chute etc. Worked ok for years
Call it what you like but it happened at Wimbledon Common every week of the year. People would turn up around 5.00am and then wait for the club house to open around 7.00 and straight into the bar and book based on who's car arrived first.

Clearly Paulddj42 is not going to accept any alternative point of view and merely name call but to answer his question, academic as it is as I've clearly stated we don't have tee times so very much like Grant85 its only a booked tee for competitions and you enter into a time zone 8.00-9.20, 9.20-10.20 and 10.20-11.00 (and roll up after that) and then get drawn randomly, we had about 60 new members in 2018. From day one they turn up when they want and go out but everybody is made aware of what roll up groups play on what day and all these groups are expected to integrate new members without any issues
 
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What’s the difference between a ball in the chute and booked tee times? Other than with the later you might have some idea of what time you tee off?

I assume roll ups get their ‘usual’ slot ‘reserved’ for them?!
We don’t have roll ups, for example, weekends, Winter, Nov - Apr, Non-qualifying comp 8-11, from 11 comp closed. All bookings for weekends done by BRS.
You can check online anytime and if not booked you can just turn up and play.
Bookings available from the thursday prior to the following weekend.
Works very well and not aware of any issues in last 3 years.
 
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Call it what you like but it happened at Wimbledon Common every week of the year. People would turn up around 5.00am and then wait for the club house to open around 7.00 and straight into the bar and book based on who's car arrived first.

Clearly Paulddj42 is not going to accept any alternative point of view and merely name call but to answer his question, academic as it is as I've clearly stated we don't have tee times so very much like Grant85 its only a booked tee for competitions and you enter into a time zone 8.00-9.20, 9.20-10.20 and 10.20-11.00 (and roll up after that) and then get drawn randomly, we had about 60 new members in 2018. From day one they turn up when they want and go out but everybody is made aware of what roll up groups play on what day and all these groups are expected to integrate new members without any issues
Again you’re making it up! Haven’t name called anyone! Haven’t criticised the way your Club is run, you are the one pontificating then throwing accusations out without discussion!
 

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What’s the difference between a ball in the chute and booked tee times? Other than with the later you might have some idea of what time you tee off?

I assume roll ups get their ‘usual’ slot ‘reserved’ for them?!
Not at my place. We don't have tee times. We have times published as to when the balls will be drawn for each group but once the draw is done if there's a queue, match, ladies comp etc they have to wait their turn or go off the tenth if there is a gap and no early players coming down the ninth (who get priority)
 
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Amazing what people can get worked up over.

Who cares who has what tee times...new members will integrate themselves if they want to. Groups shouldn’t ‘have’ to accommodate them. There are far bigger problems in the world, and in Golf, than to worry about who plays when.
 
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It's a must for me at any club I'm thinking of joining. No booking seems such a backward step these days

A club will have a booking system that it’s members want and what suits its members

Positives and negatives for BRS and non booking
 
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