Big brand tour irons, not all they seem to be.

[MashieNiblick]

Miura do not forge any thing. They machine stuff, but factor out their forging. Fact.

Hmm, well their website says

"Miura makes its forged clubs -- irons, wedges and putters -- in the company's one factory and one forge, both in the city of Himeji, which was for centuries the seat of the ancient Japanese art of samurai sword making. While demand for those weapons has diminished, the generations of steelmaking skill and passion have not -- and these are the attributes that the Miura family brings to the creation of the world's best golf weapons.

Katsuhiro Miura, who began making golf clubs in 1957, hand-grinds clubs in his factory every day alongside Yoshitaka Miura, while Shinei Miura supervises the forging. Miura clubs are made one by one, using many handcrafting processes, and will never be mass produced. Special forging techniques assure that the grain of the steel in each club will be fine and uniform, with no voids or tiny bubbles that could interfere with the famous Miura purity of the strike. This grain, more comparable to a jar of sand than a jar of marbles, is the result of careful and patient forging and finishing, and it sets Miura apart from other clubs."

http://www.miuragolf.com/about.asp

 

[Monty_Brown]

And Woods didn't use Titleist balls, he used Bridgestones stamped with a Nike swoosh. But he now uses genuine Nike balls.

Interesting. My club pro, who founded Online Golf and knows a fair bit about the trade, told me that Bridgestone still makes all Nike's golf balls.

And most Titleist-contracted ball players still use the old Pro Vs with the tell tale markings blocked out. No idea if all this is bona fide but I wouldn't be surprised.

I can see both sides of this debate, part of em thinks "who cares" but part of me thinks it's pretty shady to flog clubs to amateurs that bear no relation to the stuff that they see top players use.

 

[One Planer]

I can see both sides of this debate, part of em thinks "who cares" but part of me thinks it's pretty shady to flog clubs to amateurs that bear no relation to the stuff that they see top players use.

You could take it a little further and add shafts to this.

The "stock" shafts in clubs bear little, if any, resemblance to the shafts usd on tour.

 

[Ethan]

Interesting. My club pro, who founded Online Golf and knows a fair bit about the trade, told me that Bridgestone still makes all Nike's golf balls.

And most Titleist-contracted ball players still use the old Pro Vs with the tell tale markings blocked out. No idea if all this is bona fide but I wouldn't be surprised.

I can see both sides of this debate, part of em thinks "who cares" but part of me thinks it's pretty shady to flog clubs to amateurs that bear no relation to the stuff that they see top players use.

I played golf with a Tour pro who is a Nike staffer. He told me that at a recent Tour event in Europe, there were 9 Nike players and between them they had 8 different golf balls, 6 of them bespoke variations of the Nike Tour D, differentiated by subtle markings so the players and Tour van guys can make sure the right player has the right ball.

 

[Monty_Brown]

I played golf with a Tour pro who is a Nike staffer. He told me that at a recent Tour event in Europe, there were 9 Nike players and between them they had 8 different golf balls, 6 of them bespoke variations of the Nike Tour D, differentiated by subtle markings so the players and Tour van guys can make sure the right player has the right ball.

Wowsers. It must be tricky to stick a Nike swoosh on a Molitor too.

Nothing is as it seems at that level of golf.

My question would be whether these guys go for such a level of customisation because they need it, or because they can ask for it and get it....

 

[One Planer]

My question would be whether these guys go for such a level of customisation because they need it, or because they can ask for it and get it....

The latter

 

[Region3]

I played golf with a Tour pro who is a Nike staffer. He told me that at a recent Tour event in Europe, there were 9 Nike players and between them they had 8 different golf balls, 6 of them bespoke variations of the Nike Tour D, differentiated by subtle markings so the players and Tour van guys can make sure the right player has the right ball.

Was this recent enough that the 20XI was available to them as well?

Just wondering how many staffers are playing them.

I'm down to my last dozen Tour D's and can't decide whether to get another batch of those or try the 20XI, not that it will probably make much difference.