Lots of managers have started away games without a striker, packing midfield or adding a 5th defender. Their intention being not to concede a goal, and maybe sneak a win. It's not a team/formation set up to win, it's set up not to lose, ergo a draw.
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Lots of managers have started away games without a striker, packing midfield or adding a 5th defender. Their intention being not to concede a goal, and maybe sneak a win. It's not a team/formation set up to win, it's set up not to lose, ergo a draw.
jp5
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The formation was no different to playing an out and out striker up front. It was just the wrong player in that position.
Liverbirdie
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Is Defoe Sunderland's player now, or his on loan from an USA side? If he ie will he play the full season?
stokie_93
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He's never been on loan at Sunderland mate, they signed him directly from Toronto.
He belongs to Sunderland now. Problem is they don't seem to have another striker that actually scores. Can he play every game, can he keep fit? His record for injuries is good but it is asking a lot for the whole burden to be on him at his age.
Seeing Stokie reply made me think. Sunderland should go to Stoke and ask for Crouch on loan. Back to little and large, Defoe and Crouch - Quinn and Philips. That would make sense to me.
Seeing Stokie reply made me think. Sunderland should go to Stoke and ask for Crouch on loan. Back to little and large, Defoe and Crouch - Quinn and Philips. That would make sense to me.
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It wasn't the formation they were awful and got a great result.
fundy
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Arsenal got a draw despite the initial set up not because of it. Ospina had a blinder and Cavani an utter shocker, Ibra wouldve scored 3 maybe 4 in Cavani's shoes last night.
A very lucky point papers over cracks that nothing has changed and that we wont be competing with the best in the CL yet again.
Giving Wenger credit for last night is frankly laughable imo, best you could give him is he corrected some of his initial mistakes
A very lucky point papers over cracks that nothing has changed and that we wont be competing with the best in the CL yet again.
Giving Wenger credit for last night is frankly laughable imo, best you could give him is he corrected some of his initial mistakes
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Aren't judging them against 5 worse teams, just think he'll get them solid and getting results. Not getting a win in the first few games is no different to the last 6 seasons.
Liverbirdie
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Didn't know that, thought he was a loan player, or at least initially.
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Very fair, I'd love any of the English teams to win the CL or EL, but as you say last night was a lucky point.
stokie_93
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He had a month loan at Spurs after moving to Toronto I think then Sunderland signed him.
Problem is that they look poor and so to stay up, like past years, they are relying on teams being worse than them rather than them being better than other teams. I agree he will tighten them up but I'm not sure the players he has are up to it.
Where are the goals outside of Defoe? It is one thing to rev up a team for a relegation battle at the end of a season, it is another to get a poor bunch going from the start. Plenty of managers have come in recently and saved them only to be sacked half way through the next season.
I see West Brom being down there, Burnley and Hull will not be far off but I don't see any of those having a total nightmare.
I have seen the stat about not winning in Aug/Sept since 2012 but you can't keep doing that and hope to get away with it.
stokie_93
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see us being down there too!
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It's way too early to judge, once he's got the players buying into how he works they'll kick on.
sawtooth
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I fancy having a tenner on Monaco tonight at 4/1
Spurs might find it difficult at Wembley and Monaco arguably best team in France atm.
Spurs might find it difficult at Wembley and Monaco arguably best team in France atm.
Pin-seeker
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French league is pants,PSG will have it in the bag by xmas.
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Poor defending by Spurs, that cross has got to be stopped.
HomerJSimpson
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Game on at Wembley now Spurs have scored. Wonder if they can turn it around and we can get an English clean sweep tonight. Great effort out the blocks by Leicester
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I have waited a long time to see football like that.
well done Citeh.
well done Citeh.
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Good results for City and Leicester tonight, disappointed with Spurs result, hopefully not to much damage in the long run.
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