mozza25
Medal Winner
It's on forever. The manufacturers are moaning but nothing they can do
American golf double value trade in
- Thread starter Bobirdie
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It's on forever. The manufacturers are moaning but nothing they can do
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Well apart from not give them any stock to sell - yeah guess nothing they can do
chasf
Assistant Pro
Then they loose one of their biggest customers, american golf must shift some amount of stock and if they don`t supply them their sales
will tumble.
Its can`t be bothering taylormade or callaway as all stores have demo heads of the new kit .
SAPCOR1
Journeyman Pro
Was looking for a cheap-ish 5 wood so had a rumage in the garage spares bag and took in my well used SLDR Mini and got £48 for it against an Callaway XR.
Also had a hit of a TM AeroBurner 5W (which was nice) and the new M2 5W which went really well and I was seriously tempted. Common sense prevailed and I stuck to my plan of a cheap-ish 5W and didn't spend the extra £100. Maybe in a few months though ......
AG guys were all raving about the new Cally Epic
Also had a hit of a TM AeroBurner 5W (which was nice) and the new M2 5W which went really well and I was seriously tempted. Common sense prevailed and I stuck to my plan of a cheap-ish 5W and didn't spend the extra £100. Maybe in a few months though ......
AG guys were all raving about the new Cally Epic
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Deleted member 15344
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Something will break soon enough - the deals will be impacting on golf club pro shops , the reps will notice the drop in sales which will then filter through. AG offer imo seems to be something which is unsustainable and must be impacting on their profits if there is any. A big bubble will burst. The issue with Titliest and increase of prices is a start
Bazz
Q-School Graduate
Can anyone tell me how much I'd get for my Nike ignite 3 irons please...they're cluttering up the garage....and I'm lazy.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
BristolMike
Head Pro
the epic was a good driver, I would say the new M1 is better. It probably had a lot to do with the shaft but the M1 had a 4mph club head speed advantage and at least 5-10 yards. The epic is better looking and sounding though.
Bazz
Q-School Graduate
Thanks mate, that's crazy. I've had them years and they're just gathering dust
The price increases have happened at all retailers form what I can see.
according to some it's all because of brexit.....
when a manufacturer charges £400 for a driver I don't think a 5% price rise is gonna be all that significant in the plight of ag. What they're doing to rivals and local pros may not appear good to some, but until they go bust doing it as some predict. I'm more than happy to take advanatge, amd looking at the posts on here. Far more have taken advanatge than condemned them for the ill effect it may cause.
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Deleted member 15344
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Of course people aren't going to condemn them - they are getting stuff cheap , it's the way of the world nowadays - trying to find some way of getting stuff without paying the required price. Just look at every time GM offer freebies how everyone reacts - or even the amount that are trying to find a way to get Sky football without the paying - it's all from the same sort of cloth
People are buying cheap stuff of eBay to take advantage of it , the chap on here who has used the deal to buy 5 Scotty putters and tried to flog them on here.
There is something a bit wrong about it all for me it's not illegal of course but something will break imo soon so i personally will continue to get anything i need from my pro because for me he is very important to my club and the game - I just hope enough people think the same way and the deal doesn't affect the golf pro too much.
Had a good chat with a couple local reps from a golf manufacturer and a pro shop supplier and they are talking about it.
I do feel for the decent good pros. I'd like to think that the better ones will have built good relationships with their members and will be ok.
Unfortunately nowadays everyone looks for the bargain. I can't imagine many people pay more than say £100 for anything that they haven't researched.
It's certainly been going on a while now which makes me think one of two things is gonna happen. Either American golf will basically monopolise the market, or b they'll become sports direct.
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
It will certainly be interesting to see where AG goes with this or what their plan is in the future but I wouldn't be worrying about a Pro especially one that has access to hundreds of members.
If he is not making a decent living then he must be doing something wrong.
A decent pro that treats his members right and actually tries to communicate with his members will make a living.
I expect most members will buy something,enter comps,have the odd lesson,hire a buggy etc so plenty of avenues for income.
I actually have supported many pro's at my club and in my area,i also have spent 100's into the 1000's at AG in Exeter after all they offer a service and if I'm looking for that service well all well and good.
In every business its dog eat dog and there's no way I would pay £50 more for something I can get down the road that would be madness.
If he is not making a decent living then he must be doing something wrong.
A decent pro that treats his members right and actually tries to communicate with his members will make a living.
I expect most members will buy something,enter comps,have the odd lesson,hire a buggy etc so plenty of avenues for income.
I actually have supported many pro's at my club and in my area,i also have spent 100's into the 1000's at AG in Exeter after all they offer a service and if I'm looking for that service well all well and good.
In every business its dog eat dog and there's no way I would pay £50 more for something I can get down the road that would be madness.
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Exactly, same for me Tony and we're lucky to have a Pro that will price match if he stocks it.
Probably AG and Titleist fall out (if true) could be simply timing, ie, the contract between them is up for renewal, if the other big names are still in contracts with AG then there would be very little they can do until their contracts come up for renewal.
Coffey
Challenge Tour Pro
Went into AG in the hope to find a cheap driver as two of mine are at Ping getting fixed and they don't have any heads until middle of feb...
Picked up a used R15 with £101 on it, right beside it was an ex demo for £70 (which had the wrong shaft in it). Asked the guy if he could do the second hand one cheaper as I know you can buy new for £99 and there was another one which was better condition right beside it for £30 cheaper. He said they cant do any of the second hand stuff lower than what they traded for as the system flags it up. He said they traded that R15 for £100 and added £1 to it. He said he knows exactly where I am coming from and knows it is over priced but cant do anything about it.
Really struggling to see how they are going to shift any of it.
Same with the M1 and M2's they had, they were £222 and then had ex demos for £199.
Picked up a used R15 with £101 on it, right beside it was an ex demo for £70 (which had the wrong shaft in it). Asked the guy if he could do the second hand one cheaper as I know you can buy new for £99 and there was another one which was better condition right beside it for £30 cheaper. He said they cant do any of the second hand stuff lower than what they traded for as the system flags it up. He said they traded that R15 for £100 and added £1 to it. He said he knows exactly where I am coming from and knows it is over priced but cant do anything about it.
Really struggling to see how they are going to shift any of it.
Same with the M1 and M2's they had, they were £222 and then had ex demos for £199.
JakeWS
Assistant Pro
In all the time I have spent in AG though, I have never seen anyone else trading in, and there is always a queue at the till, I don't think it will even account for a large percentage of sales. Apparently my Local AG was rammed the week after Christmas and took more money than ever.
My local AG had a sale of the traded in gear on boxing day,most of it is still available.....
moogie
Tour Winner
I was expecting a huge Boxing Day fire type sale of used gear, as used to be the norm at AG every Boxing Day
It never happened
But as stated by Coffey , they've all been told (my local stores) that they can't sell below price that the used club(s) were traded in at.
Coffey
Challenge Tour Pro
I guess if they did sell it for less, you could buy it and then trade it back in again for more money
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
PP wants to trade an old set of irons for a hybrid - take it they will do that for him?
