American golf double value trade in

[davemc1]

Not where I went,I showed the sales assistant the one price PGA guide on my phone and he insisted they use another that has 3 variations of pricing,as a previous poster said they are now going on the middle value on the guide.

Yeah this happened to me too. I think they put the offer out there without much thought and consultation to staff in how to run it.

Examples being...
some stores give the bottom of the 3 prices.
some stores didnt add in the price match.

either that, or the stores where selective with there offers in order to maximise profits... which I'm sure never happened.

Either way, it's been a cracking offer. Win-win situation

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Now they are probably in a good place to take on golf bidder and ebay in the 2nd hand club market !!!

Not at the price they have paid for their stock!

 

[wrighty1874]

I traded in an old set of irons for a putter, which I didn't have to pay any money for.

 

[daveyc2k2]

Think I'm going to head there to see what they will give for my Yonex Ezone XP driver. Had a look on PGA.com but it is not listed on there, so may be at their own discression I guess.

Anyone got any ideas?

 

[drewster]

Think I'm going to head there to see what they will give for my Yonex Ezone XP driver. Had a look on PGA.com but it is not listed on there, so may be at their own discression I guess.

Anyone got any ideas?

Don't expect the world , the general consensus is that Yonex don't hold much in resale/part ex value . Strange I know as it's good product .

 

[Deleted member 15717]

When I asked my AG what they'll do with my old irons, they just said they will sell them and make a loss. Didn't even blink an eye at the potential loss...however, did say if they have the clubs, it stops any competitors from being able to sell them

 

[NWJocko]

When I asked my AG what they'll do with my old irons, they just said they will sell them and make a loss. Didn't even blink an eye at the potential loss...however, did say if they have the clubs, it stops any competitors from being able to sell them

Would also be interesting to know if GolfBidder or any larger ebay shops selling second hand clubs have seen a slowdown as, with this deal, more people are probably trading stuff in for new gear rather than buying second hand for the same budget.

Went to my local one on Saturday morning and they valued all the rubbish I had and then said I had £X to spend rather than 1:1 trade. Got a gap wedge I was after, some gloves and balls and a putter to sell on to make a wee bit of cash

Problem is I'm now tempted to go and buy a new set of irons!!! :rofl:

 

[PJ87]

When I asked my AG what they'll do with my old irons, they just said they will sell them and make a loss. Didn't even blink an eye at the potential loss...however, did say if they have the clubs, it stops any competitors from being able to sell them

making a small loss on the clubs isnt a big deal to them considering how much profit they have made recently with this boost in sales

 

[pendodave]

making a small loss on the clubs isnt a big deal to them considering how much profit they have made recently with this boost in sales

Profit?

How are they making a profit??

They have been exchanging brand new stock items for stuff people have in their shed + some spare change. They might have shifted a load, but they have very little cold hard cash to show for it.

If I was an AG shareholder, I'd be selling fast. It looks like a promotion cooked up by an exec with a monthly 'sales' bonus to meet. Probably already got his next job sorted...

 

[PJ87]

Profit?

How are they making a profit??

They have been exchanging brand new stock items for stuff people have in their shed + some spare change. They might have shifted a load, but they have very little cold hard cash to show for it.

If I was an AG shareholder, I'd be selling fast. It looks like a promotion cooked up by an exec with a monthly 'sales' bonus to meet. Probably already got his next job sorted...

we dont know the profit margin on the clubs their selling in the first place, if they make a £50 loss on a set of irons for example we dont know how that compared to the mark up they made on the clubs they sold in the first place

AG deals always seem crazy I mean deal of the week a couple weeks ago was £100 off taylormade irons.. how can they afford to do that unless the mark up is a lot anyways

 

[Deleted member 18588]

we dont know the profit margin on the clubs their selling in the first place, if they make a £50 loss on a set of irons for example we dont know how that compared to the mark up they made on the clubs they sold in the first place

AG deals always seem crazy I mean deal of the week a couple weeks ago was £100 off taylormade irons.. how can they afford to do that unless the mark up is a lot anyways

The "special" deals are often supported by the manufacturer to shift older and discontinued lines.

Those manufacturers are extremely unlikely to be involved in this promotion and since margins on most clubs is not great, even for a company buying in the numbers that AG do, this latest deal would seem to be more about boosting turnover rather than profits.

 

[pendodave]

The "special" deals are often supported by the manufacturer to shift older and discontinued lines.

Exactly right. This deal is not the same at all. Unless AG have them all over a barrel in some way. It applies even to the new stuff that they would normally expect to make a decent amount on without any offers.

It's not even as if they are offering a half price sale for cash. The second hand market is already saturated and ebay has driven prices down massively over the last few years. When all this junk hits the streets, it will be even worse. They could take months to get anything back on it at all.

I have an iron set that I would struggle to give away, and yet AG will give me a brand new wedge for them. Madness.

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

Exactly right. This deal is not the same at all. Unless AG have them all over a barrel in some way. It applies even to the new stuff that they would normally expect to make a decent amount on without any offers.

It's not even as if they are offering a half price sale for cash. The second hand market is already saturated and ebay has driven prices down massively over the last few years. When all this junk hits the streets, it will be even worse. They could take months to get anything back on it at all.

I have an iron set that I would struggle to give away, and yet AG will give me a brand new wedge for them. Madness.

+1 here, bought a set of irons off E Bay for £60 posted, just traded them against a Mack Daddy wedge at £95, they offered £101 trade in so bought a couple of FJ gloves. Wedge + Gloves = £8 + irons.

 

[J5MBF]

+1 here, bought a set of irons off E Bay for £60 posted, just traded them against a Mack Daddy wedge at £95, they offered £101 trade in so bought a couple of FJ gloves. Wedge + Gloves = £8 + irons.

So you spent £68 with them that without the offer being on, you wouldn't have? The irons you traded in only owe them £33 (£101 - £68 spent = £33) + the cost price they pay for the wedge? They sell them for £70ish which is expected given you spent £60 the first time round on them and they haven't really lost out at all. Plus they got you into the shop when you may not have been inclined to go in?

Thats how i see it anyway. On your shop, they have probably lost £20 max? On others they will make much more. Its a loss making deal to get foot fall in the stores.

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

So you spent £68 with them that without the offer being on, you wouldn't have? The irons you traded in only owe them £33 (£101 - £68 spent = £33) + the cost price they pay for the wedge? They sell them for £70ish which is expected given you spent £60 the first time round on them and they haven't really lost out at all. Plus they got you into the shop when you may not have been inclined to go in?

Thats how i see it anyway. On your shop, they have probably lost £20 max? On others they will make much more. Its a loss making deal to get foot fall in the stores.

I don't disagree with your calcs, but if you have old relatively worthless clubs lying around its a good deal for the purchaser.

 

[J5MBF]

I don't disagree with your calcs, but if you have old relatively worthless clubs lying around its a good deal for the purchaser.

100% agree with that

 

[pendodave]

So you spent £68 with them that without the offer being on, you wouldn't have?

No!!

Or maybe I'm missing something here...

AAC spent £60 on ebay, not AG.

He then spent £8 in AG and walked out with a brand new wedge plus a couple of gloves. They also have a set of nearly worthless irons that they will have to store, process and transport. Last time I looked, footfall was not an item on a P&L...

 

[Val]

Would also be interesting to know if GolfBidder or any larger ebay shops selling second hand clubs have seen a slowdown as, with this deal, more people are probably trading stuff in for new gear rather than buying second hand for the same budget.

Went to my local one on Saturday morning and they valued all the rubbish I had and then said I had £X to spend rather than 1:1 trade. Got a gap wedge I was after, some gloves and balls and a putter to sell on to make a wee bit of cash

Problem is I'm now tempted to go and buy a new set of irons!!! :rofl:

Likewise despite my irons being less than a year old. Maybe a driver and putter too :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 18588]

So you spent £68 with them that without the offer being on, you wouldn't have? The irons you traded in only owe them £33 (£101 - £68 spent = £33) + the cost price they pay for the wedge? They sell them for £70ish which is expected given you spent £60 the first time round on them and they haven't really lost out at all. Plus they got you into the shop when you may not have been inclined to go in?

Thats how i see it anyway. On your shop, they have probably lost £20 max? On others they will make much more. Its a loss making deal to get foot fall in the stores.

But AAC did not buy the irons that he traded from AG, he bought off ebay.

So they sold a wedge and glove for £101, profit likely to be £35 so roughly speaking cost to them when bought from manufacturers £66.

They have also bought a second hand set of irons for £101 which they will be lucky to get £70 for.

Total costs £66 + £101 = £167

Total profits £35 + £70 = £105

Overall loss £62

Old business saying "Turnover for egos, profits for heroes!"

 

[PJ87]

But AAC did not buy the irons that he traded from AG, he bought off ebay.

So they sold a wedge and glove for £101, profit likely to be £35 so roughly speaking cost to them when bought from manufacturers £66.

They have also bought a second hand set of irons for £101 which they will be lucky to get £70 for.

Total costs £66 + £101 = £167

Total profits £35 + £70 = £105

Overall loss £62

Old business saying "Turnover for egos, profits for heroes!"

your overlooking how much business has this deal taken from other stores / Pros. For example I was all set to get my new clubs in March (as its my 30th) and direct golf is attached to my range so was going to go there..

Then this AG came out they offered me £224 for my G15 pings, I thought hell I cant turn £100 because lets face it I would get £100 max for them in march.. and allowed me to get them earlier.. well convince the wife to let me.

Before this I spoke to my mate who runs a pro shop as he always says he can beat whatever AG do even if he makes bugger all just to "take a sale off them" so he could beat the iron price by about £60 however he would only give me £100 for the irons.. as he would need to sell them on.. so that was £64 more expensive than AG overall so said sorry mate ill go down AG.

So thats a sale gained for AG.. taken away from Direct Golf / Another local pro shop

Then I decided to sell a lot of old model trains that I had in my mums garage from when I was into that. Sold the lot on ebay for about £500. So decided hmm the M2 driver is very nice.. how much will they give me for my R15 (which I bought for £175 off them in jan) I got £100 for it and Parted with £179 cash for the M2.. just because really.. Didnt overly need it and if wasnt for this offer would never have upgraded

I can't be the only person whos bought clubs just because of this offer