Aftermarket grips

[USER1999]

Nice theory, but we all have clubs we don't like. They just feel wrong. It could be pureing the shaft, grip weight, shaft weight, what ever. If you are fussy, you will notice.

Or it could just be me.

 

[Val]

Nice theory, but we all have clubs we don't like. They just feel wrong. It could be pureing the shaft, grip weight, shaft weight, what ever. If you are fussy, you will notice.

Or it could just be me.

I think you got your answer at the end murph

 

[Imurg]

Should add, not that you'd notice anyway but taking your glove off to swing the driver would have more effect on balance than a grip change it's that small.

Well, just as an example, a GP MultiCompound weighs around 55-60g and the grip on a Cleveland FL fairway grip weighs 39g.
Not saying it makes a huge difference but........
Callaway talk about moving 5-10g around the head makes massive differences so adding nearly 20g to the grip must have an effect musn't it?

 

[MegaSteve]

so adding nearly 20g to the grip must have an effect musn't it?

I can see it being the case if added weight was at the 'hitting' end but not the 'fulcrum' end...

 

[Slicer30]

Just to give an idea of what the balance change is, get your driver and balance it on your finger untill is sits perfect level then stick 10g of weight on the grip, it will hardly move. 10 gram is about the weight of an a4 sheet of paper. Honestly, the club golfer would never notice.

Valentino - I was agreeing with you that it wouldn't make a difference until this example.It got me thinking.

Gonna put this to the test but here is my thinking....

Lets say your finger is on the center of gravity - for arguments sake 3 inches from the Driver head. If you were to add 10g weight to the grip end. The equlibrium would be upset and the club would fall - agree?

Even more so as the additional gravity would actually be 10g x the distance from the centre of gravity. (so longer the shaft, the more impact additional weight will have)

So if you were to add a grip with more weight, the point where your finger finds the balance will be closer to the grip.

but ould it make a difference - I don't know

 

[Val]

I can see it being the case if added weight was at the 'hitting' end but not the 'fulcrum' end...

:thup:

 

[Slime]

Lets say your finger is on the center of gravity - for arguments sake 3 inches from the Driver head. If you were to add 10g weight to the grip end. The equlibrium would be upset and the club would fall - agree?

Even more so as the additional gravity would actually be 10g x the distance from the centre of gravity. (so longer the shaft, the more impact additional weight will have)

So if you were to add a grip with more weight, the point where your finger finds the balance will be closer to the grip.

but would it make a difference - I don't know

Where's bobmac ? He's never around when you really need him.
Bob..................BOB, sort this out for us mate.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I looked at some Yonex clubs a while back at an AG out of curiosity. Decent looking clubs but the grips felt like a cheap afterthought. I bought the TM Burner hybrid last year and the standard grip on that was unplayable even in the dry and with a glove. It just slipped everywhere and was a real disgrace. I got Tour velvet put on asap. My R11's came with the tour velvet as standard and so I've no complaints

 

[Val]

Valentino - I was agreeing with you that it wouldn't make a difference until this example.It got me thinking.

Gonna put this to the test but here is my thinking....

Lets say your finger is on the center of gravity - for arguments sake 3 inches from the Driver head. If you were to add 10g weight to the grip end. The equlibrium would be upset and the club would fall - agree?

Even more so as the additional gravity would actually be 10g x the distance from the centre of gravity. (so longer the shaft, the more impact additional weight will have)

So if you were to add a grip with more weight, the point where your finger finds the balance will be closer to the grip.

but ould it make a difference - I don't know

Your bang what you say but the difference s really minimal (and I mean really minimal). I'm certain the ratio of head to grip is around 10 - 1 so if you add 10 grams to the head then you'd need to add 100 to the grip to balance and the same in reverse so if you add 20 g to the grip (equivalent of 2 sheets of good a4 paper) the you are talking of a 2 gram change to the head making it effectively lighter, would it really make that difference to the club golfer? That really is the question.

Personally I don't think it would affect me.

 

[Imurg]

Been reading up about this....

According to the Interwebbything changing a 50g GP grip for a 25g Winn ultralite will increase the swingweight of the club by 5 points - making the head feel heavier.
So, in theory, replacing a light grip with a heavier one should reduce swingweight by a similar amount making the head feel lighter.
Apparently, most golfers can't distinguish 1 swingweight point difference between clubs.
Most can distinguish a 3 point change.
So if you're changing the S/W by 5 points - that's a big change and the club will feel and mabe perform very differently.

Any real Experts in Da House?

 

[Slime]

Been reading up about this....

According to the Interwebbything changing a 50g GP grip for a 25g Winn ultralite will increase the swingweight of the club by 5 points - making the head feel heavier.
So, in theory, replacing a light grip with a heavier one should reduce swingweight by a similar amount making the head feel lighter.
Apparently, most golfers can't distinguish 1 swingweight point difference between clubs.
Most can distinguish a 3 point change.
So if you're changing the S/W by 5 points - that's a big change and the club will feel and mabe perform very differently.

Any real Experts in Da House?

I have a Winn Ultralite on my driver......................and I hate it. Any hint of moisture and it turns into an eel. I was going to change it for a Golf Pride grip, of unknown weight but undoubtedly heavier than the Winn, but may hold off until this issue is resolved.
As Imurg asked............Any real Experts in Da House?

Slime.

 

[Val]

Been reading up about this....

According to the Interwebbything changing a 50g GP grip for a 25g Winn ultralite will increase the swingweight of the club by 5 points - making the head feel heavier.
So, in theory, replacing a light grip with a heavier one should reduce swingweight by a similar amount making the head feel lighter.
Apparently, most golfers can't distinguish 1 swingweight point difference between clubs.
Most can distinguish a 3 point change.
So if you're changing the S/W by 5 points - that's a big change and the club will feel and mabe perform very differently.

Any real Experts in Da House?

I think we would need to determine what weight 1 swing weight is and by your quick calc, 5 grams?

So in essence a 10 gram change up might make the club feel 2 points lighter on the head, I'm not convinced it will affect the club golfer at all however if your tinkering a change then the only way to really check is change the grip and try it.

 

[Imurg]

Yeah, 2 points either way and most wouldn't feel it.
But any more than that and most would feel it.

Interesting - we really need an EXPERT.........

 

[Val]

Check this out, it's full of "experts", all interesting stuff but is it relevant for the average golfer in the grand scheme of things? Who knows.

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/44071-swing-weight-factors-in-relation-to-parts/

 

[MegaSteve]

Think I'll just carry on fitting grips that I like the feel of... Think the game can, at times, be complicated enough without worrying about swing weight changes due to differing weight of grips...


"Grip it and rip it" comes to mind at this point :whoo:...

 

[Slime]

How about changing a Winn Ultralite for a (much heavier) Golf Pride grip, but cut the end off the new grip first, thus making it shorter AND lighter.
Would this work, dunno, what we really need is an expert who could make a more considered and professionally appropriate argument as to whether or not mere mortals like us would be able to notice any difference.

 

[Val]

Think I'll just carry on fitting grips that I like the feel of... Think the game can, at times, be complicated enough without worrying about swing weight changes due to differing weight of grips...


"Grip it and rip it" comes to mind at this point :whoo:...

:thup: