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Or there is also a lot of women who are single parents that have got themselves pregnant to allow them to get a house and benefits.
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Or there is also a lot of women who are single parents that have got themselves pregnant to allow them to get a house and benefits.
SocketRocket
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I agree, I mentioned that in an earlier post.
Dasit
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Yep being a young single mother is a lifestyle choice for a lot of women.
If you are poor and badly educated teenage girl, it does seem like a nice gravy train to get a house and money by just having a child with whatever man you can find to get you pregnant.
Raesy92
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Find many of the comments in this thread pretty saddening.
FairwayDodger
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How'd they manage that then?
virtuocity
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Absolutely. I've tried 6 times to write a reply to this thread but deleted them- The level of narrow mindedness is staggering.
This is a forum where opinions are valid, even if not informed by personal experience. But as someone who has worked intensively with families brought to their knees by poverty I'm quite upset by the level of utter crap that's been spouted by some on here.
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Completely agree :thup:
palindromicbob
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As much as I see FD's point (it takes two to tango). I wish I could find this statement shocking and unbelievable I know exactly the mentality you are talking about.
I used to live in flats in Wrexham. At a party in a neighbours flat I was approached by a rather drunk girl who asked me to sleep with her because I "seemed like a nice guy". When I informed her I had a girlfriend in an attempt to politely refuse she said "It's ok, I don't want a relationship, I just want to get pregnant so I can get a flat." I took that as a cue to leave the party. To top it off I later found out she was only 15. She got her wish in the end it would seem because 18 months later I saw her leaving a nearby flat pushing her new born baby in a pram.
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Fully agree with your first statement and do agree with the two to tango
My old flat was built in a new area and around us they built social housing - it was then full of young ladies with kids , one had four and she was 28 , every kid had a different father and she openly admitted she had unprotected sex to get pregnant to give her more benefits and an upgrade on her flat to a house and others round her where of the same attitude. Yes there were also single mothers who had partners that did a runner when they got pregnant and they were left with the baby.
I don't believe it's a massive level but there a certainly young ladies who see getting pregnant as way to get themselves a life or a way out of the area they are in.
it's awful to think that it happens but it's clear it does
Raesy92
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Many are lying the blame at the parents, and in some instances it is probably rightly so.
However the rise in the level of reliance of food banks has increased massively, do you think these are being used by the parents that have little care for their children so just feed them pizza and chips...? Or do you think they are being used by parents that are struggling to put the very basics on the dinner table for their families?
However the rise in the level of reliance of food banks has increased massively, do you think these are being used by the parents that have little care for their children so just feed them pizza and chips...? Or do you think they are being used by parents that are struggling to put the very basics on the dinner table for their families?
Maybe some are using them as they are genuinely in need but I bet a fair few are taking advantage and using them so they have more money for fags and booze
Raesy92
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Or maybe the majority are using them because they actually need to. Then there may be a tiny fraction of people that are using them so they can still buy fags and booze.
People do realise that smoking is an addiction, and it's not just so easy to stop. Making sure the next generation don't start smoking should be the aim rather than chastising those that do.
Raesy92
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Peoples main gripe seems to be that parents are spending their benefit money on fags (probably make a massive issue because they believe the tax they pay is buying this).
I wonder if these same people realise that between 80-90% on the RRP of a 20 pack of cigarettes is taxed. So a large majority of this money is actually going back in to the government purse.
I wonder if these same people realise that between 80-90% on the RRP of a 20 pack of cigarettes is taxed. So a large majority of this money is actually going back in to the government purse.
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I would say it's impossible to find a definitive answer - there will be cases of both scenarios, people using food banks etc because they are clearly struggling and will be victims of the financial crisis and be in areas of clear poverty whilst still trying to bring up their children the very best they can
And there will be people who will use them to save them using their benefit money so they can buy booze and fags. As for stopping smoking - yep it has addictive substances in the fag but there is plenty of ways out there to help people give up , just got to have the will and plenty just don't want to give up their booze and fags because it's their vice. There a plenty of youngsters smoking who have started when they know the clear dangers of it
Old Skier
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Is this a U.K. Figure or just Scotland.
One is to many but if we go by the media the rest are all suffering with obesity
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virtuocity
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Excellent post sir
