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That Frittelli ruling was complete BS. Yet another example of the 'sacred rules' being utter nonsense and devoid of any logic. Why penalise him for showing ingenuity in a completely unique situation? Made themselves look very petty. The mind boggles.
 

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I dont know. There is no back swing there. You cannot just push the ball. That he stalls the followthrough as well doesnt really matter. Didnt hear any discussion on it though, but I dont think he would have any argument had he been penalised.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1qpQaM9tzz8
You are wrong. There's no need for a backswing if/when you start sufficiently behind the ball. And it was a stab - abbreviated by the clubhead hitting the ground.
 

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That Frittelli ruling was complete BS. Yet another example of the 'sacred rules' being utter nonsense and devoid of any logic. Why penalise him for showing ingenuity in a completely unique situation? Made themselves look very petty. The mind boggles.
Unfortunate certainly, but against the rules means a penalty - fwiw, reflecting real life! It would have made sense if he had asked for a ruling on the legality of the shot he was proposing, An RO would have, presumably, told him that it was against the Rules. He could have then simply changed his stance so that the shot was legit.
 

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Apparently the penalty was applied when a video from down the line appeared, taken by a spectator...
I thought this had stopped a while back..?
 

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That Frittelli ruling was complete BS. Yet another example of the 'sacred rules' being utter nonsense and devoid of any logic. Why penalise him for showing ingenuity in a completely unique situation? Made themselves look very petty. The mind boggles.

One of the reasons why people that don't pay golf, will think it's a stupid game.


It's a daft rule - apply it on the putting green but not anywhere else on the course.
 

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Unfortunate certainly, but against the rules means a penalty - fwiw, reflecting real life! It would have made sense if he had asked for a ruling on the legality of the shot he was proposing, An RO would have, presumably, told him that it was against the Rules. He could have then simply changed his stance so that the shot was legit.
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Did he actually ask that specific question though? And phrased correctly.
If so, and was misled, then it's pretty naff imo. After all, that's what the RO is primarily for, or at least a major part of their role.
I don't know in all honesty. I just saw the clip of the shot, not everything that went with it. It's lucky that Frittelli wasn't at the business end of the comp.
 

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I don't know in all honesty. I just saw the clip of the shot, not everything that went with it. It's lucky that Frittelli wasn't at the business end of the comp.
Still cost him some cash - fortunately not a (relatively) huge amount andhe doesn't seem to be struggling.
My view is that if he specifically asks a RO if the shot he is planning will result in a penalty and the official states 'No' then that is what should happen. The RO can seek assistance if unsure/unusual, but there shouldn't be comeback for being misled.
Maybe that's not quite how it works - so it's the players responsibility to know every nuance of The Rules, or take responsibility for any breach - even if after being misled. In life, something Golf (rules) occasionally relate to for justification, there'd be mitigation for bad advice from an appropriate authority.
 
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Golfer breaks rule , people complain about rules , statements of “why people don’t play golf” - has anyone ever known anyone that hasn’t played golf because there are some silly rules ?

Do they think the same of all the other sports that have rules - or is it just the domain of golf ?

He broke a rule , was sanctioned the correct penalty for said rule , life moves on
 

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Unfortunate certainly, but against the rules means a penalty - fwiw, reflecting real life! It would have made sense if he had asked for a ruling on the legality of the shot he was proposing, An RO would have, presumably, told him that it was against the Rules. He could have then simply changed his stance so that the shot was legit.
I don't agree that it was against the rules, I don't see how it CAN be against the rules - it's such an unorthodox shot it's impossible that it would ever have been considered when the rules were written. As said earlier, the rule he's supposed to have infringed was written to block a certain style of putting, not a method of whacking it out of a tree for God's sake. To apply that rule to that shot is nothing short of petty and anal.
 

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Golfer breaks rule , people complain about rules , statements of “why people don’t play golf” - has anyone ever known anyone that hasn’t played golf because there are some silly rules ?

Do they think the same of all the other sports that have rules - or is it just the domain of golf ?

He broke a rule , was sanctioned the correct penalty for said rule , life moves on
I disagree very strongly with this. :LOL::poop:
 

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I don't agree that it was against the rules, I don't see how it CAN be against the rules - it's such an unorthodox shot it's impossible that it would ever have been considered when the rules were written...
But that's the Rule! Little different to accidentally moving your ball during a search imo. Certainly unfortunate though.
 

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Surely if it's during a search it wouldn't be visible;)

Well you'd think... but there's plenty 'clumsy' golfers out there, and a few who would become clumsy if they thought they could 'accidently' give a little back heel & move it away from that imbedded rock etc :p
 
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