2019 Cricket

[Deleted member 15344]

I've not seen the announcement. If Denly is half decent in this test then surely that is the end of Jennings test career. Frankly even if he isn't it is likely the end. He has had enough chances and just does not look the part.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....op-keaton-jennings-for-second-test-in-windies

Don’t think Denly is the answer but Jennings clearly just can’t cut.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've not seen the announcement. If Denly is half decent in this test then surely that is the end of Jennings test career. Frankly even if he isn't it is likely the end. He has had enough chances and just does not look the part.

Totally agree. I simply don't think he can cut it as an opener. However I think the selectors need to give Denly a couple of tests and we can't go back to chopping and changing like the old days as soon as a players has one bad match

 

[fundy]

Hard to believe its taken them to pick until nearly his 33rd birthday a test opening batsman thats gonna cut it, on the plus side he can cover Rashids loss of leggies too (sort of tongue in cheek but another seen as a multi faceted player)

Jennings will most likely get another shot in a few years when the few options left in county cricket that havent had a go have had one, the cupboard really is bare. Despite how bad the form of several of the current side, theres very few in county cricket who can claim they did enough to have deserved a shot that hasnt had one

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Hard to believe its taken them to pick until nearly his 33rd birthday a test opening batsman thats gonna cut it, on the plus side he can cover Rashids loss of leggies too (sort of tongue in cheek but another seen as a multi faceted player)

Jennings will most likely get another shot in a few years when the few options left in county cricket that havent had a go have had one, the cupboard really is bare. Despite how bad the form of several of the current side, theres very few in county cricket who can claim they did enough to have deserved a shot that hasnt had one

I agree the cupboard is bare but who shoulders the blame? The ECB? The counties? How do we get a test level opener, that can grow into a Cook like player

 

[fundy]

I agree the cupboard is bare but who shoulders the blame? The ECB? The counties? How do we get a test level opener, that can grow into a Cook like player

The ECB. All they do is marginalise proper cricket more and more for hit and giggle and ill thought out new comps like the hundred and partnership with Alan Stamford, pandering to new fans whilst disappointing their existing ones. Chasing the quick buck and ignoring where they have come from and what has got them there, but hey ho, what do I know, according to the ECB im outside cricket!!!

What incentive is there for a young cricketer to be a test opener? Far more money batting at 6 in a hit and giggle franchise game

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The ECB. All they do is marginalise proper cricket more and more for hit and giggle and ill thought out new comps like the hundred and partnership with Alan Stamford, pandering to new fans whilst disappointing their existing ones. Chasing the quick buck and ignoring where they have come from and what has got them there, but hey ho, what do I know, according to the ECB im outside cricket!!!

What incentive is there for a young cricketer to be a test opener? Far more money batting at 6 in a hit and giggle franchise game

Totally agree and once we lose Anderson, Broad and a few others and start tumbling down the rankings do you really see the ECB looking at longer forms of cricket? No of course not. They'll chop and change match after match, discard upcoming talent too quickly and wonder where it all went wrong?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

This problem is affecting all countries I'm sad to say. The big money is in 20:20 now so the players concentrate on biffing it miles rather than a high left elbow, yes I'm old school. Not many proper openers anywhere but we are particularly in trouble at the moment.

 

[Tongo]

The big money is indeed in T20 cricket but the ECB must take some of the blame for the daft scheduling that isnt helping the CC and, by dint, the test side. My county, Hampshire, play 14 T20 games and one 4 day game during a 43 day period from mid July until the end of August this summer. That is ridiculous that a county is playing such a small amount of cricket across a large part of the summer. County cricket used to be a slog, now some players will basically have the best part of 2 months off across the height of summer. The answer was to compress the Blast into a shorter time frame (note how many are saying the BBL is too long this year) but the ECB decided that another competition, i.e. more cricket, was the answer.

 

[fundy]

The big money is indeed in T20 cricket but the ECB must take some of the blame for the daft scheduling that isnt helping the CC and, by dint, the test side. My county, Hampshire, play 14 T20 games and one 4 day game during a 43 day period from mid July until the end of August this summer. That is ridiculous that a county is playing such a small amount of cricket across a large part of the summer. County cricket used to be a slog, now some players will basically have the best part of 2 months off across the height of summer. The answer was to compress the Blast into a shorter time frame (note how many are saying the BBL is too long this year) but the ECB decided that another competition, i.e. more cricket, was the answer.

You think thats bad for CC, wait until they start playing the ludicrous 100, guess which comp gets even more marginalised

 

[Tongo]

You think thats bad for CC, wait until they start playing the ludicrous 100, guess which comp gets even more marginalised

I can see how its going to pan out. The lack of players coming from the county game will lead to conclusions that there are too many counties so talent is diluted. Therefore, reduce the number of counties to, say, 8 (i.e to roughly match the number of test match grounds) so as to raise the standard and reduce costs. The ECB also seem to be hanging onto the increase in people living in cities as another reason for their policies. It smacks of a possible aligning to how things are structured in Australia. The problem is that in Australia a large proportion of the populous live in 5/6 major cities whereas the number of people living in cities may be increasing here but it will be across a much larger number of cities. So once the number of first class counties are reduced there will be large swathes of cricket fans that would have to travel huges distances to see a game. But its all about growing the game apparently.

 

[fundy]

I can see how its going to pan out. The lack of players coming from the county game will lead to conclusions that there are too many counties so talent is diluted. Therefore, reduce the number of counties to, say, 8 (i.e to roughly match the number of test match grounds) so as to raise the standard and reduce costs. The ECB also seem to be hanging onto the increase in people living in cities as another reason for their policies. It smacks of a possible aligning to how things are structured in Australia. The problem is that in Australia a large proportion of the populous live in 5/6 major cities whereas the number of people living in cities may be increasing here but it will be across a much larger number of cities. So once the number of first class counties are reduced there will be large swathes of cricket fans that would have to travel huges distances to see a game. But its all about growing the game apparently.

They may want to take a look at the Big Bash and the state of the Australian team too before jumping all over their model lol

 

[Tongo]

They may want to take a look at the Big Bash and the state of the Australian team too before jumping all over their model lol

Its difficult to see anything else when one's eyes are blocked by pound signs!

 

[fundy]

Its difficult to see anything else when one's eyes are blocked by pound signs!

we all know what happened last time that happened with Mr Stanford

 

[fundy]

Lost the toss and been put in, Leach misses out

 

[fundy]

Plenty of live grass on that strip (esp for WI), bit damp too, could be fun early before flattening out, or just flat from the start. Might have been a decent toss to win this

 

[Dan2501]

Not convinced Denly is the answer to our issues at the top of the order given he hasn't even opened for Kent since 2015, but I guess we'll wait and see. At least it should mean the end of Jennings for a while. Just praying we can put up a big total first up here.

 

[Dando]

Denly is a good player and I hope he does well and gets a decent run in the side but as he's not from one of the favoured counties I think he wont get the same chances as others.

 

[fundy]

Not convinced Denly is the answer to our issues at the top of the order given he hasn't even opened for Kent since 2015, but I guess we'll wait and see. At least it should mean the end of Jennings for a while. Just praying we can put up a big total first up here.

surely weve not picked another guy who wants to bat at 5 have we haha

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Green pitch and England already 4-1 (Burns out)

There may be trouble ahead.....

 

[fundy]

Green pitch and England already 4-1 (Burns out)

There may be trouble ahead.....

yeah its not really a green seamer despite looks, it is a bit 2 paced. Slow from short for sure, bit more pace if pitched up and gets some of the live grass. expect it gets slower over days 2 and 3 as it dries more