HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Very one sided womens final and India very poor. Having seen that performance you'd love to think (of course we'll never know) England would have given them a bigger battle against the old enemy
2019 Cricket
- Thread starter fundy
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I haven't played for a good few years now but back in the day cheap boxes had no padding around the edge. Never thought anything about it until hit there and you had to deal with both the instant pain and an imprint left by the edges ??. Soon realised the worth of spending extra on one with padding on the rim. Don't know what the SD one is like but may be worth looking at a better one for next week ?.
Pleased he is feeling better, occupational hazard in cricket unfortunately.
Piece
Tour Winner
Never skimp on a cricket box. Get the best you can.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Tnx for all the inputs.. i think this sorted. So i have another question
In the nets against the bowling machine, I have seen him play freely even when they ramp up the speeds. Never a problem and great footwork. Timing can be off but that is more to do with age than anything.
However, today facing real people, his footwork was all iffy.. sometimes moving away, some times reaching out too far etc. No fun watching and then he got hit.
On the car journey back, i was asking him how is he so good during practice and not able to bring that into play? His response was simple. he said (and I paraphase)...
1) On the machine, you can predict what the ball will do and it is consistent. This is not entirely true as I know the coaches increase/decrease the speed sometimes - though the ball will roughly be the same line but change its length.
2) People on the other hand are unpredictable - at this age, some deliveries are on off, some leg, some stumps, some short etc. So he can be late trying to decide what to do.
The reality is that he needs to learn to play against people and unpredictability is part of the game. So how do i advice him to bring his practice into his play? Surely this is a mental thing rather than skill..
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In the nets against the bowling machine, I have seen him play freely even when they ramp up the speeds. Never a problem and great footwork. Timing can be off but that is more to do with age than anything.
However, today facing real people, his footwork was all iffy.. sometimes moving away, some times reaching out too far etc. No fun watching and then he got hit.
On the car journey back, i was asking him how is he so good during practice and not able to bring that into play? His response was simple. he said (and I paraphase)...
1) On the machine, you can predict what the ball will do and it is consistent. This is not entirely true as I know the coaches increase/decrease the speed sometimes - though the ball will roughly be the same line but change its length.
2) People on the other hand are unpredictable - at this age, some deliveries are on off, some leg, some stumps, some short etc. So he can be late trying to decide what to do.
The reality is that he needs to learn to play against people and unpredictability is part of the game. So how do i advice him to bring his practice into his play? Surely this is a mental thing rather than skill..
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fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Ill give you an example when I played to clarify what hes saying and why. We played against Watford in the Herts league when I was still in my teens. Their 2 opening bowlers were:
A seamer who bowled left arm over, player for Essex and England, prob bowled close to 80mph, pitched it up swung it and seamed it, a genuine class act (on and off the field)
A right arm "quick" known as mad dog, nasty angry quick erratic bowled a lot of short stuff, then a waist high full toss then a length ball etc, also a class act off the field!
Which end did you want to be at? Thats right you wanted to be at the end against the international because whilst he was far far more likely to get you out he wasnt any danger to your well being!! Yes he was a proper challenge but you knew where you stood, whereas the other end you didnt have a clue what was coming (and some would argue nor did he lol)
As humans, we like certainty, uncertainty (especially when coupled with perceived physical danger) creates fear which leads to lower performance levels
From a practice perspective you need to mix it up more. By all means practise a shot where you know roughly whats coming on the machine, but you also need to practise completely random to simulate a game situation more. To start with you can even do it with a tennis ball and throw downs from 12-15 yards with a variety of deliveries to build the confidence before moving on to using the machine or normal nets against a variety of bowlers
doubt it will be the first or last and he was fortunate he had a box on, i had a ball hot back at me in nets by Mohammed Akran, while bowling, straight though my hads and into the crown jewels, split one of them and some of the epidymis spilled out... i lived
Machines are great, I wish they were around when I was a kid, but they are sterile and can be comfortable to use. The ball comes from the same place every time whereas people are unpredictable, as per Fundy's post. If he is at practice and has the option of the lane with the machine or the lane with people, tell him to use the one with people. Get him familiar with people bowling and then use the machine to practice a particular shot, eg cover drive, clip off the legs etc. At the end of the day, when the season starts, he will not be facing a bowling machine.
Incidentally, your last point is pretty spot on, it is in his head but at that age what goes on in your head is a big deal.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
I dont have videos of nets w/ people but here are couple of the rage against the machine
against medium pace >
against slow (and this was hard as they have to watch it more) >>
PS: He currently thinks Test matches, but that will change once the IPL/100 starts
I can't tell you how envious I am watching him play. The whole set up is light years from my time, sadly a good few years in the past. Fantastic.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Like fundy says the BM is predictable, you can pretty much hold the position of a forward def and the ball will be there about most of te time.
you used to see it at the Junior nets when i was still playing some 15 years ago.. most of them were scared of the ball, not suprised with all the regs and pads worn.
I know things are different now but when i was a kid we used to play with real ball and no gloves or pads most of the time.. made you use the bat anyway
sussexhacker
Active member
I’m a very average cricketer but I’ve put the bowling machine on 90mph for a laugh because it’s quite safe just set it up reasonably full and just outside off stump and you can’t really hurt yourself
Put me in front of stokes bowling 90mph with a decent short ball and unpredictability and I think you’ll find me holding square legs hand rather than facing up
Put me in front of stokes bowling 90mph with a decent short ball and unpredictability and I think you’ll find me holding square legs hand rather than facing up
I saw this happen to someone as well.
Also, I witnessed a guy wearing glasses who got pinned by a bouncer and the glass got stuck in his head. as he was jumping about he trod on his wicket and was out
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
OK, lets put this up again now that you can actually see the pitch again, amazing the difference! Good luck groundsmen!
https://www.wccc.co.uk/pitchview/
https://www.wccc.co.uk/pitchview/
Mudball
Assistant Pro
If they sow some seeds, they could have a bounty before the season...
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
No pro cricket until at least 28th May for the upcoming English domestic season!
Not sure what i'm going to do with myself. In truth its not surprising in the slightest.
Not sure what i'm going to do with myself. In truth its not surprising in the slightest.
Paperboy
Mini Cam
They reckon that it may just end being T20 and The 100, to take place
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
No pro cricket until at least 28th May for the upcoming English domestic season!
Not sure what i'm going to do with myself. In truth its not surprising in the slightest.
tell me about it, income stream down to zero here
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
They reckon that it may just end being T20 and The 100, to take place
hmm, income stream may go negative lol
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Did i hear IPL was delayed for a 2-3 weeks. I am assuming India will have a cure by then. Will be interesting to see which overseas players play this year.
