2019 Cricket

[HomerJSimpson]

Fair play to WI, theyve been utterly superb, brilliantly led by a star in Jason holder but weve been pitiful. Finally coming home to roost the utter neglect of the longer format, wouldve happened sooner if other sides werent in a similar situation (and Root wasnt such a good tosser). And it only gets worse medium term when Broad and Anderson call it a day, as then we will have no specialists left, just be picking 4 keepers and 7 all rounders! Still as long as their cash cow the hundred makes them all a few quid who cares how much they are destroying cricket

Heads should roll at the ECB instead theyll probably give themselves bigger bonuses, Farbrace will not even be questioned and theyll want 150 quid for a Lords ticket for the Ashes against an Aussie side who are as bad as we are currently

Totally agree with every word. The neglect of the longer format has been waiting for a consequence we're seeing at test level now. As I said, I can see Anderson calling it a day after the Ashes and Broad not long after and we've not got any contingency plans in place. The top order is a mess, Root is failing tactically and the ECB and management are sitting on their hands

 

[Dan2501]

Windies have been brilliant, they've bowled in good areas, made the most of conditions and then dug in with the bat. We've bowled alright, just batted dreadfully. Anytime the ball moves around we fall apart. No-one in that line up is capable of grinding out an innings and making runs in difficult conditions. We're missing a Cook at the top, or a Trott at 3, or Collingwood at 5, guys who can grind out in tough conditions and make ugly runs. Issue is though, who do you bring in to replace the current team? No-one is knocking the door down in County Cricket, the batting stocks are empty. Managed to paper over the cracks in the summer and got lucky with a few toss wins but the issues have been made obvious here.

 

[Piece]

Oh dear. Was hoping to return from the Amex with some good news in cricket. . Time to look for the rugby highlights...

 

[Dan2501]

Just need to bowl them all out for 12 then. Easy

 

[Karl102]

Not good! Not good at all... Lack of application and dare I say it some arrogance from England going into the series.
Turning down the warm up game was a mistake and they certainly have selection issues...

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Windies have been brilliant, they've bowled in good areas, made the most of conditions and then dug in with the bat. We've bowled alright, just batted dreadfully. Anytime the ball moves around we fall apart. No-one in that line up is capable of grinding out an innings and making runs in difficult conditions. We're missing a Cook at the top, or a Trott at 3, or Collingwood at 5, guys who can grind out in tough conditions and make ugly runs. Issue is though, who do you bring in to replace the current team? No-one is knocking the door down in County Cricket, the batting stocks are empty. Managed to paper over the cracks in the summer and got lucky with a few toss wins but the issues have been made obvious here.

Correct. West Indies have bowled superbly but some poor batting too. We have no-one that wants to play like a Trott, Collingwood, Cook, Atherton or even a Gooch and just stay in. No need to rush to score runs. Stay in, take time out the game and force the West Indies to rotate bowlers and then look to score from there. I don't know who comes in and county cricket has a bare cupboard in my opinion

 

[Tongo]

WI need 14 to win so Root bowls Anderson and Broad.

I find England's captains so contemptuous these days, Morgan is a vacuous ECB schill and mouthpiece whilst Root is tactically poor and rigid.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

WI need 14 to win so Root bowls Anderson and Broad.

I find England's captains so contemptuous these days, Morgan is a vacuous ECB schill and mouthpiece whilst Root is tactically poor and rigid.

Didn't matter who they bowled and they didn't get overly exerted did they

 

[Tongo]

Didn't matter who they bowled and they didn't get overly exerted did they

No, but it seems a bit of a micky take asking the already flogged veteran bowlers to so it. Chuck the ball to Denly and bowl the other end himself.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

No, but it seems a bit of a micky take asking the already flogged veteran bowlers to so it. Chuck the ball to Denly and bowl the other end himself.

True but then does Root get called out for being unprofessional. Of course it's a no win match situation but would he not get stick for just chucking it down to let them knock the runs off.

 

[Tongo]

True but then does Root get called out for being unprofessional. Of course it's a no win match situation but would he not get stick for just chucking it down to let them knock the runs off.

Not really. Its sort of standard procedure to bowl part timers if the batting side are chasing just a few runs.

 

[Dan2501]

Heck of a shot to win the game. Fair play to the WI, well played.

 

[Karl102]

WI need 14 to win so Root bowls Anderson and Broad.

I find England's captains so contemptuous these days, Morgan is a vacuous ECB schill and mouthpiece whilst Root is tactically poor and rigid.

I understand this point totally, but as an ex opening bowler, that new ball is mine and if I have a chance to grab a wicket for next to no runs on that deck I'm gonna take it.
The bowlers haven't done that badly. Batters need to learn to graft a bit...

 

[Tongo]

I understand this point totally, but as an ex opening bowler, that new ball is mine and if I have a chance to grab a wicket for next to no runs on that deck I'm gonna take it.
The bowlers haven't done that badly. Batters need to learn to graft a bit...

Very much agree re the bowlers who have done pretty well. The batters have been woeful.

 

[Mudball]

.. they should have just bowled underarm

.. Meanwhile watched India play NZ in the one dayers. Having won the series 3-0, they were thumped in the previous game where they rested Kohli. This morning switched it on and they were 80 something for 4. Turned off the telly. But then the junior folks came back to finish 250 something. Bowling was nearly spot on and they got Kiwis for 200 something. If the wicket keeping coaches want a lesson on how keeping is not just about fast hands, then have a look at MS Dhoni dismisal of Neesham.. unbelievable match awareness..

 

[fundy]

I see the ICC have suspended Holder for the 3rd test after the WIs horrific over rate (81 overs in a day I think)

They really need to sort the penalty out for this as this just shafts the paying public twice not the once!

Time they introduced proper run penalties related to over rates if theyre serious about bowling 90 overs a day and giving the paying public what the deserve (it really isnt that hard to bowl 15 overs an hour!)

 

[Captainron]

I agree. Over rates need to be set with times.

There is no doubt a formula (a la Duckworth) that could be applied.do for example at lunch on day 1 you’ve bowled 24 overs and they have lost 1 wicket you get penalised x amount of runs. If you had bowled 27 over and they have lost 4 wickets it’s x etc etc.

 

[Captainron]

Stoppages for injury, reviews, bat/glove changes etc will need to be factored in and the acceptable rate adjusted.

Can all be done by the 3rd Ump and notice put through to the 2 guys in the middle who will communicate with the fielding captain. The big screen then sends the message.

Windies penalised xx runs for slow over rate

Simple

 

[fundy]

Spot on Ron

Should be a base line for overs wickets stoppages etc then adjusted for any over and above. Far too sensible for the ICC who prefer to pick and choose when they can be bothered to suspend a skipper

 

[Captainron]

Spot on Ron

Should be a base line for overs wickets stoppages etc then adjusted for any over and above. Far too sensible for the ICC who prefer to pick and choose when they can be bothered to suspend a skipper

Captains would speed it all up pretty sharpish. Should they breach then they will fe fined to a certain point and banned etc. Like getting points on your licence