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England have been super lucky to have Anderson fit for 95% of his career. Remarkable longevity and he is still very capable at 36 years old.

I would love to have him retired before you go to South Africa at the end of the year.

nah you wouldnt, surely youd rather us be semi competitive lol

thats a proper sitter Buttler :(
 

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If he is batting at 8 or 9 then surely his has been selected as a bowler first and foremost and any runs are a bonus.

I think we are selecting bowlers based on the failure of our batting. Curran's bowling is not good enough at this level and what will happen is Stokes will get injured after bowling too many overs. Four seamers then Woakes plays all day long for me, good enough to hold a spot as a bowler alone but he is a very capable batsman.

but lets face it Ashley Giles got picked more for his batting than his bowling at 8 for many years, so its not the first time. I'm not saying his bowling is good enough as it clearly isn't, but they clearly went for something a bit different and his batting stood out, they obv feel they can't drop him now. Wood clearly couldnt cut it, but i'd like to see someone with real pace get a spot, no idea who it would be though.

lets face it though we would have lost to India and Sri Lanker had it not been for the lower order;)
 

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England are a team of guys that do lots of little bits, rather than master of one. Buttler, Bairstow are essentially one day biffers who can keep a bit. Stokes, Woakes, Curran and Ali are similar in that they are all rounders, and not specialise in one discipline. Probably taken this approach to cover up the gaps we have at the top of the order. I prefer that we go down the road of specialists in their field, especially the wicky, echoing what I’ve read above.

Hopefully now that scratchy Campbell is off for his shower, the flood gates will open.
 

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Slightly OT but Jason Roy has just taken what might be the greatest catch ever in the BPL!

I almost missed the catch as i was so appalled at the shocking half-tracker from the bowler. Seem to see this often with T20, so many pies offered up on a regular basis.
 
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He is left handed which is a bonus as it provides a bit of variation. He is still young and should come on as he matures. I doubt he will get up to 90 clicks but all he has to do is work on his accuracy. Be the Philander type bowler who gets poles by building pressure relentlessly.

There was absolutely no reason to drop him after his first test series but I do think he will get a rest if he doesn't grab wickets in this game. Wood needs a blast. Quick and hostile which is what you have required on both surfaces so far.

Other than the fact that he (Curran) as a bowler is about as threatening as Boycott's granny you are right no reason to drop him.

He will never be the bowler that Philander is. It would be a start if he was consistently low 80's never mind 90.

And Wood may be relatively quick but without bounce he isn't hostile.
 

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Other than the fact that he (Curran) as a bowler is about as threatening as Boycott's granny you are right no reason to drop him.

He will never be the bowler that Philander is. It would be a start if he was consistently low 80's never mind 90.

And Wood may be relatively quick but without bounce he isn't hostile.

Wood is one of those players who's reputation improves significantly the longer he is out of the side. (A bit like Gareth Barry for the England footballers a while back) When Wood plays he's not done anything special and doesnt take many wickets.
 

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Other than the fact that he (Curran) as a bowler is about as threatening as Boycott's granny you are right no reason to drop him.

He will never be the bowler that Philander is. It would be a start if he was consistently low 80's never mind 90.

And Wood may be relatively quick but without bounce he isn't hostile.
Wood is genuinely quick unlike the rest of your entire squad. If Gabriel is doing it for the Windies then he will do it for the poms
 

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Well let’s hope you take a tubbing and the selectors are forced to make changes

The selectors are forever making changes but between the obsession with players who can do more than one thing, and the resultant compromises, and Ed Smith's funky picks there's little room for decent selections!
 
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Wood is genuinely quick unlike the rest of your entire squad. If Gabriel is doing it for the Windies then he will do it for the poms

Genuinely quick?

Maybe before his injury problems but it's not just pace, that's not going to do it without bounce and lift.

Wood is a skidder, OK in England but in the Caribbean bounce is necessary. Just look at one or two of the England wickets yesterday.
 

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Genuinely quick?

Maybe before his injury problems but it's not just pace, that's not going to do it without bounce and lift.

Wood is a skidder, OK in England but in the Caribbean bounce is necessary. Just look at one or two of the England wickets yesterday.

agree Wood had plenty of chances without taking too many wickets from what i remember. only person he troubled was the scorers from what i saw;)
 

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Genuinely quick?

Maybe before his injury problems but it's not just pace, that's not going to do it without bounce and lift.

Wood is a skidder, OK in England but in the Caribbean bounce is necessary. Just look at one or two of the England wickets yesterday.
90mph plus is fairly brisk. I never enjoyed facing guys that quick when I was playing
 
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Wood is one of those players who's reputation improves significantly the longer he is out of the side. (A bit like Gareth Barry for the England footballers a while back) When Wood plays he's not done anything special and doesnt take many wickets.

Only 30 wickets in 12 Tests at an average of over 41 suggests you are right .
 

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The bowler i'm hoping to see make a return to the England team is Toby Roland-Jones. But i fear he may be overlooked for a lesser bowler who can bat better.
 
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90mph plus is fairly brisk. I never enjoyed facing guys that quick when I was playing

Care to tell me when he has bowled consistently at 90+.

That was something that Donald did so well for your lot but Wood is no AD.
 

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Care to tell me when he has bowled consistently at 90+.

That was something that Donald did so well for your lot but Wood is no AD.

From the telegraph last early last year.

Mark Wood (Durham)
Right-arm fast

On his day, Wood is able to consistently hit the low 90s and is arguably England's fastest bowler.
Unfortunately, he is also injury prone - the curse of being a paceman. Three ankle operations followed his breakthrough international summer two years ago.

But if England can get him fit, and able to bowl in short bursts at full lick, he could be the answer. Let's not forget that at Trent Bridge in 2016, one delivery – albeit driven for four by Pakistan's Azhar Ali – zipped in at 95mph.
Steve Harmison is said to have clocked 96mph back in 2004. The internet suggests Craig White once touched 97mph. But speed guns are more accurate now - much more accurate - and Wood, 27, can lay claim to be the quickest English bowler around.
 
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From the telegraph last early last year.

Mark Wood (Durham)
Right-arm fast

On his day, Wood is able to consistently hit the low 90s and is arguably England's fastest bowler.
Unfortunately, he is also injury prone - the curse of being a paceman. Three ankle operations followed his breakthrough international summer two years ago.

But if England can get him fit, and able to bowl in short bursts at full lick, he could be the answer. Let's not forget that at Trent Bridge in 2016, one delivery – albeit driven for four by Pakistan's Azhar Ali – zipped in at 95mph.
Steve Harmison is said to have clocked 96mph back in 2004. The internet suggests Craig White once touched 97mph. But speed guns are more accurate now - much more accurate - and Wood, 27, can lay claim to be the quickest English bowler around.

He can claim to have been the quickest English bowler, but not any more. Injuries appear to have taken their toll.

In any event just look at his figures. His "pace" hasn't exactly proved to be that effective.
 
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