Dan2501
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Same squad for the fifth test
Absolutely mental. It's like they want to lose. Blind faith in the idiots that have got us into this mess.
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Absolutely mental. It's like they want to lose. Blind faith in the idiots that have got us into this mess.
Beezerk
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It's like Blackadder IV. We've done the same thing the last fifteen times so the opposition will not expect us to do it again 🤣
HomerJSimpson
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Roy and Overton dropped for Curran and Woakes https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49659554
fundy
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no one saw that coming lol (post 2618), in fairness to Ed Smith hes certainly predictable
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In CC News - good day for Somerset , hopefully get the win tomorrow with Essex likely to draw against Warks puts it hopefully back in our own hands
fundy
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Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dan2501
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Had no internet and been off sick today so dug out the 2009 Ashes DVD and man alive I miss Paul Collingwood. Played a vital rebuilding knock in the first innings at Cardiff in partnership with KP and now watching him battle and grind us to a draw in the 2nd innings. The sort of Test cricketer we sorely miss, the sort of man who will stand-up in a crisis and make ugly runs but stick around and make things miserable for the opposition. Batted 4 hours in the 2nd innings before reaching 50, what a hero.
Crazy watching the difference in umpiring without DRS as well, a number of LB shouts that would never be given not out now, even Joel Wilson would have given them out, umpires were so much more cautious with LBW decisions back then.
Crazy watching the difference in umpiring without DRS as well, a number of LB shouts that would never be given not out now, even Joel Wilson would have given them out, umpires were so much more cautious with LBW decisions back then.
ColchesterFC
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Have the selectors been watching a different series to everyone else this summer. Instead of addressing the problems they're simply rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Our batting line up has failed in almost every game so instead of strengthening it they're going to move Stokes up to 4, Bairstow up to 5 and Buttler up to 6. We're either going to get 700-5 declared after 60 overs or be all out for less than 100 (again).
Piece
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Yup. You want a batting line-up that the oppo thinks they're gonna be difficult to shift. I look at our line-up and think we can get them out fairly easily. I wouldn't be surprised if England win this last Test match, purely because subconsciously the Aussies have already got the main prize on a A380 back Down Under.
There is an element of rose tinted specs about Collingwood. A good chunk of his England career was spent on the edge of being dropped at which point he would throw in a 'gritty' innings that would save him. There is no questions that he did play some very vital innings, I also think he squeezed everything out of the talent that he had and that has to be admired. He can look back with a lot of pride on his career.
I am chuckling about your LBW comment as well. Playing cricket many years ago if you were on your front foot you would never be given out. Take a stance out of your crease, let the umpire know, and you would never be out LBW. I see so many decisions given or referred and I am shouting not out based on my early years. I am old school and I am not entirely convinced about DRS, I still think many decisions given would likely go over the top. I know I am likely to be wrong but it is inbuilt
Dan2501
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I think people were a bit harsh on him at the time personally, because of how ugly his technique looked, he always looked out of knick. His record is excellent though, from breaking into the team on more of a permanent basis in '06 to the end of '09 he made almost 3,500 runs at 45 with 9 hundreds. 2010 his form left him and he was rightly dropped in 2011, but that 4 year period between the start 2006 and end of 2009 he was superb, played so many vital innings for England.
Dan2501
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Just been reading about Bradman and stumbled across this scorecard from 1930
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-wales-vs-queensland-sheffield-shield-1929-30
Aged 21 smacking 452* in 415 minutes, absolutely insane. Didn't play his first match on a grass wicket until 1926, and was making a FC quadruple century 4 years later. It's fascinating reading about him.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-wales-vs-queensland-sheffield-shield-1929-30
Aged 21 smacking 452* in 415 minutes, absolutely insane. Didn't play his first match on a grass wicket until 1926, and was making a FC quadruple century 4 years later. It's fascinating reading about him.
Dan2501
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England collapsing first. Roy and Overton dropped in favour of Curran and Woakes. This means Stokes moves up to 4, Bairstow up to 5, Curran comes in at 7 with Woakes at 8. What an absolutely shocking batting line-up. Why on earth didn't they pick another batsman?
Australia have picked an extra bowler in Mitch Marsh, dropping Head. Starc also makes way for Siddle. Bizarre team selections from both sides.
Australia have picked an extra bowler in Mitch Marsh, dropping Head. Starc also makes way for Siddle. Bizarre team selections from both sides.
fundy
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we didnt pick another batsman for at least 3 reasons lol; firstly stokes is unlikely to bowl so they needed an extra bowler, secondly they didnt have one in the squad apart from roy, thirdly they have no idea who to pick from outside the squad
very strange decision from Aus to bowl first and if theyre bringing in Marsh am surprised they didnt stick with Starc tbh
ColchesterFC
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Maybe they've looked at our batting line up and decided that they'll probably be batting before lunch anyway.
fundy
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there is that but its a pretty big risk on them thinking this is going to be a sporting deck early as we need a result (albeit does seem a little more grass than usual at the Oval). Also giving up the advantage of bowling last on what will be a dry one by the end!
ColchesterFC
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It's probably not going to dry out too much in the 3 days that it'll take for Australia to knock us over, score 400+ and then knock us over again.
fundy
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Maybe, betting mkts actually hav England as favs post toss!!!!
ColchesterFC
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Tongo
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The obsession with technique in English cricket is insufferable. Was there much difference between Collingwood and Bell? Or was it the obsession with Bell's orthodox technique? Would Steve Smith have progressed in English cricket with his quirky methods? Probably not.
