2019 Cricket

[Deleted member 18588]

7 against 15 seems about a fair game

Certainly does when you look at the 15!😉

 

[fundy]

Totally agree but then batsmen don't help.

Considering they were looking to set a target it was amazing how many times the Aussie batsmen weren't ready and the bowler had to wait on his mark.

But the umpires have to be stronger surely! Tell em to get on with it! ICC removing captaincy bans really not helping either

 

[Deleted member 18588]

But the umpires have to be stronger surely! Tell em to get on with it! ICC removing captaincy bans really not helping either

In these days of central contracts, IPL and Big Bash deals etc; fining captains part of their match fee has proved completely ineffective.

Umpires, nearly all of whom are ex-pros and can identify what is going on, should be empowered to take immediate action on the day.

 

[TheDiablo]

Yes, Labuschagne and Burns both made our list after a fuller "selectors meeting"

As for the rest perhaps we needed to take a leftfield Ed Smith approach.

Just need to find some square pegs for the round holes.

I'd only pick 7 - same as yours.

1 opener, no keeper, no spinner and no captain 😂😂

Its why earlier in the thread when the World Cup or Ashes, we can only win one question was posed I chose the WC this year. Someone picked the Ashes as the 'pinnacle' - yeah right. 2 very mediocre teams, especially outside of Smith, Stokes and the Aussie quicks.

 

[fundy]

Weird passage of play, got England on the ropes and the Aussies gone really flat, now bowling Head and Labuschagne!

 

[Imurg]

Weird passage of play, got England on the ropes and the Aussies gone really flat, now bowling Head and Labuschagne!

They're trying to give the 5th day crowd their money's worth.....

 

[fundy]

sigh , nice jinx

 

[Swinglowandslow]

What the hell am I watching.
The last two hitting at the ball when it is clearly missing the stumps.
Commentators saying things like " leach had got his eye in "
The England team need to face one of those bowling machines, for hours if necessary, learning how to judge if a ball is going to hit the stumps or not.
And thus when to leave it.
Boycott must be on the verge of apoplexy watching this England second innings.
Now Warne is speculating about a run out!
They shouldn't be thinking of runs at all.

 

[fundy]

What the hell am I watching.
The last two hitting at the ball when it is clearly missing the stumps.
Commentators saying things like " leach had got his eye in "
The England team need to face one of those bowling machines, for hours if necessary, learning how to judge if a ball is going to hit the stumps or not.
And thus when to leave it.
Boycott must be on the verge of apoplexy watching this England second innings.
Now Warne is speculating about a run out!
They shouldn't be thinking of runs at all.

so 1990s sadly, nowadays they practise range hitting, switch hits, ramps etc

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well that’s that then , lots of inward looking from England needed , not to have a look at a number of things

Selections
Captaincy
Schedule ( why have an Ashes in the same year as the WC )
Split coaching

Ultimately Australia deserved to keep the Ashes

It’s not as bad as it was in the 90’s but that wasn’t a great Australia team and they still managed to beat a poor England

 

[Fade and Die]

Well that’s that then , lots of inward looking from England needed , not to have a look at a number of things

Selections
Captaincy
Schedule ( why have an Ashes in the same year as the WC )
Split coaching

Ultimately Australia deserved to keep the Ashes

It’s not as bad as it was in the 90’s but that wasn’t a great Australia team and they still managed to beat a poor England

Can’t argue with that. For me Smith is the real difference between the sides.

 

[fundy]

Well that’s that then , lots of inward looking from England needed , not to have a look at a number of things

Selections
Captaincy
Schedule ( why have an Ashes in the same year as the WC )
Split coaching

Ultimately Australia deserved to keep the Ashes

It’s not as bad as it was in the 90’s but that wasn’t a great Australia team and they still managed to beat a poor England

2 poor sides with a handful of good players across the sides, Smith is as good as anyone out there currently, as is Cummins. Hazlewood, Labuschagne, Stokes and Broad all been good across the series

My views on the set up well known wont repeat yet again. Can still level the series at Oval so expect Curran and Woakes for Roy and Overton only lol

 

[Dan2501]

Ashes lost by our ineptitude with the bat. Smith scored 6 more runs than Roy, Root, Bairstow and Buttler combined, that's not good enough. The last game of the series is a chance to give some new guys a chance. It happened in '09 when Bopara was dropped from #3 in place of Trott, so it's time for us to do the same with a couple of these guys. For me at a minimum I'd like to see Denly moved back down to 4, Sibley come in for Roy at the top of the order and Pope come in for Buttler. We'd then line up:

Burns
Sibley
Root
Denly
Stokes
Pope
Bairstow

Which to me looks a lot stronger. Archer, Broad and Leach should definitely keep their spots and then it's one of Woakes, Overton or Curran for the final spot. I wouldn't be against giving Curran a game personally, nothing to lose, see what he can do against the Aussies. I like the variation he offers + the batting. It's him or Woakes for me, not to say I don't rate Overton, I think he had a good game.

 

[Piece]

I also think Bairstow should be ‘rested’

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I would prefer to see

Burns
Crawley/Sibley
Crawley/Sibley
Root
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes/Curran
Archer
Leach
Broad

 

[fundy]

I also think Bairstow should be ‘rested’

i dont




i think he should be dropped

 

[fundy]

I would prefer to see

Burns
Crawley/Sibley
Crawley/Sibley
Root
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes/Curran
Archer
Leach
Broad

Never happening, series not dead yet so massive changes arent going to happen and with Stokes potentially not going to be bowling much theyre going to need to pick an extra bowler in what really is still a must win game. They will swap Curran for Roy and then just a case of whether Overton gets another go or they pick a different seamer in his slot I expect

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I hope once we get to the end of the series there are some serious looks at choices from the top down. The ECB are not interested in test cricket of the four day format and are only after the lucre of the bash and run format. The captaincy of Root hasn't been good enough and he seems to let too many games drift. There are too many square pegs on round holes regarding batsmen, and too many of them aren't in form. Broad (and Anderson when fit) are near the end of their career and while Archer has come in and done reasonably considering his inexperience we need to give the next crop a go.

 

[fundy]

I hope once we get to the end of the series there are some serious looks at choices from the top down. The ECB are not interested in test cricket of the four day format and are only after the lucre of the bash and run format. The captaincy of Root hasn't been good enough and he seems to let too many games drift. There are too many square pegs on round holes regarding batsmen, and too many of them aren't in form. Broad (and Anderson when fit) are near the end of their career and while Archer has come in and done reasonably considering his inexperience we need to give the next crop a go.

who would you like to see get a go? would you stick with the selectors? who do you replace Bayliss with? how do you juggle 3 tours this winter?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Never happening, series not dead yet so massive changes arent going to happen and with Stokes potentially not going to be bowling much theyre going to need to pick an extra bowler in what really is still a must win game. They will swap Curran for Roy and then just a case of whether Overton gets another go or they pick a different seamer in his slot I expect

Agreed it’s never going to happen - expect Woakes will come back for Overton and then depends on what’s happening with Stokes

Will be nice to see a good old green home surface being prepared