You learn something new everyday.

[Mel Smooth]

Stood on the 14th tee at Dewsbury on Sunday, 4 ball betterball family comp so I was paired with the youth, and we were playing with the junior captain and his Grandad - who was last to tee off.

The 14th is Dewsburys signature hole with an elevated tee overlooking a tiered fairway - one where you really can try and open the shoulders. So Colin attempts to play his shot, clips the ball with the heel of the club and the ball rolls off the tee back towards his feet, no more than 18 inches. He then picks the ball up and places it back on the tee without thinking, when his Grandson and playing partner points out that he had to play it as it lies. Colin think's he's now out of the hole in a scoring sense so says to his pp that it's down to him to score. My lad than says "I'm sure you can re-tee without penalty it if it's still in the teeing area", myself and Colin were both doubtful...."never heard that before" was the consensus.

Anyway, I checked and you can. I'd imagine loads of people already knew this, but must admit, I didn't so posting it for those that weren't aware.

 

[backwoodsman]

Yep. Correct. If it's in the teeing area of the hole being played, then it can be re-teed

 

[rulefan]

See 6.2b Teeing Area Rules

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[Swango1980]

He'd be playing his second shot off the tee peg.

Wheras had he accidentally hit the ball in his practice swing, he can re-tee and would still be playing his 1st shot

 

[KenL]

Yep. Correct. If it's in the teeing area of the hole being played, then it can be re-teed

In this situation, is the “teeing area” the bit between the tee markers and up to 2 club lengths behind or whole of the hole’s tee?
Thanks.

 

[Swango1980]

In this situation, is the “teeing area” the bit between the tee markers and up to 2 club lengths behind or whole of the hole’s tee?
Thanks.

The former. And I think everyone made the assumption the ball was still in that area when it ended up near his feet.

 

[KenL]

He'd be playing his second shot off the tee peg.

Wheras had he accidentally hit the ball in his practice swing, he can re-tee and would still be playing his 1st shot

His second stroke, if he had made his first stroke and it moved the ball off the tee.
Is the word “shot” in the rules of golf?

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Isn’t this what Zac Johnson did at the Masters a few years ago. But think that was with his practice swing.

 

[KenL]

The former. And I think everyone made the assumption the ball was still in that area when it ended up near his feet.

So if it moves forward a bit past the tee markers you play as it lies on the teeing ground?

 

[Swango1980]

So if it moves forward a bit past the tee markers you play as it lies on the teeing ground?

Yes

 

[Swango1980]

His second stroke, if he had made his first stroke and it moved the ball off the tee.
Is the word “shot” in the rules of golf?

I was simply speaking in layman terms. But yes, his second stroke, or shot, however anyone wishes to express it

 

[Neilds]

Was he correct in moving his ball back to the original tee? Should he not have re tee'd the ball in the place it ended up? Small point but the 2nd shot may have been form the wrong place.

 

[backwoodsman]

Was he correct in moving his ball back to the original tee? Should he not have re tee'd the ball in the place it ended up? Small point but the 2nd shot may have been form the wrong place.

He was correct. If a ball, in play, is in the teing area you can move it, and tee it, anywhere in the teeing area ( 6.2b(6) )

 

[Slab]

Who is Colin

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Isn’t this what Zac Johnson did at the Masters a few years ago. But think that was with his practice swing.

That was a little different as that wasn’t an intentional swing at the ball so he could replace it without penalty

 

[doublebogey7]

Yes

Teeing ground is not a term used in the RoG.

 

[Colin L]

Who is Colin

Morning all. But it wisnae me in this instance.

 

[Swango1980]

Teeing ground is not a term used in the RoG.

I know. As KenL used "teeing ground" and also highlighted that the ball had passed the tee markers, I knew he meant it was no longer in the teeing area and in the general area. Hence my response of yes, ball played as it lies.

 

[Steven Rules]

Anyway, I checked and you can. I'd imagine loads of people already knew this, but must admit, I didn't so posting it for those that weren't aware.

Those who read the thread 'Tee shot rebounds back onto the same teeing area' on this very forum less than two months ago would have been very aware.

 

[doublebogey7]

I know. As KenL used "teeing ground" and also highlighted that the ball had passed the tee markers, I knew he meant it was no longer in the teeing area and in the general area. Hence my response of yes, ball played as it lies.

My apologies I pressed reply to the wrong post