World Handicap System

[rosecott]

Given that you can play bang on your handicap and yet your HCP still then changes overnight is what is throwing most people I speak to (as their good or bad numbers drop into 21st position)

How do they know they have played bang on their handicap?

 

[tobybarker]

36 points and no blobs. That's their perception of playing to hcp

 

[apj0524]

36 points and no blobs. That's their perception of playing to hcp

Its not that simple any more all depends on the Tee Rating for example Tees with a Rating of 71.1 and par 70 is 36 - (71.1 - 70) = 34.9 rounded 35

 

[rosecott]

36 points and no blobs. That's their perception of playing to hcp

Surely playing to handicap is 35 points if your HI is between 11ish and 28ish depending on your slope - or have I got it wrong?

 

[tobybarker]

I didn't say they were correct.. I'm saying that is the perception of what par means. They also think whs is a sledgehammer to crack a nut, or some similar metaphor

 

[YandaB]

Its not that simple any more all depends on the Tee Rating for example Tees with a Rating of 71.1 and par 70 is 36 - (71.1 - 70) = 34.9 rounded 35

It never was that simple, you always had to substitute SSS instead of Course Rating and even then you need to wait for PCC (CSS as was) for a real answer. That's not really changed under WHS.

 

[Old Skier]

It never was that simple, you always had to substitute SSS instead of Course Rating and even then you need to wait for PCC (CSS as was) for a real answer. That's not really changed under WHS.

Don't state the obvious, the ney sayers will always be ney sayers.

 

[tobybarker]

Don state the obvious, the ney sayers will always be ney sayers.

The world is full of those - the ones who will claim the system was fine as it was

 

[Old Skier]

The world is full of those - the ones who will claim the system was fine as it was

And they fully understood what SSS & CSS was and that 36 points was playing to handicap.

 

[rulefan]

... and that 36 points was playing to handicap.

I assume that was tongue in cheek

 

[wjemather]

And they fully understood what SSS & CSS was and that 36 points was playing to handicap.

And double-par adjustments and "LAGD + (LAGD*0.13))/ 1.237".

 

[Old Skier]

I assume that was tongue in cheek

Firmly

 

[jim8flog]

36 points and no blobs. That's their perception of playing to hcp

There in lies one problem, the players who think that way. I have played loads of different courses and on very few of them has 36 points been playing to handicap.

In old money 36 points and playing to handicap was only correct if SSS/CSS was the same as the par.

I have noticed others with a similar comment

 

[2blue]

Yeah..... I heard a loud "kerchunk" as the penny dropped, the other day when a member explained how several of them got 35pts & all had differing H/cap adjustments. In such instances the WHS begins to explain itself.

 

[Colin L]

There is no difference between the mixed tee arrangements in the WHS and the previous CONGU system other than the change of title by which Standard Scratch Score becomes Course Rating. The way it is now is the way was then, no more and no less complicated when it comes to stableford.

 

[SammmeBee]

There is no difference between the mixed tee arrangements in the WHS and the previous CONGU system other than the change of title by which Standard Scratch Score becomes Course Rating. The way it is now is the way was then, no more and no less complicated when it comes to stableford.

I think it’s Stableford by the way and what you’re saying is there are still courtesy shots......

 

[Crow]

Using the My EG App after my first comp this year my handicap went from 16.4 to 16.5, after the most recent it's now showing as 16.7

On the HowDidIDo App my handicap is still showing as 16.4.

 

[Old Skier]

I think it’s Stableford by the way and what you’re saying is there are still courtesy shots......

What are courtesy shots.

 

[Old Skier]

Using the My EG App after my first comp this year my handicap went from 16.4 to 16.5, after the most recent it's now showing as 16.7

On the HowDidIDo App my handicap is still showing as 16.4.

There has been some lag between ISV/EG with HDID, go by the EG app

 

[Crow]

There has been some lag between ISV/EG with HDID, go by the EG app

Over two weeks?

After the first comp my handicap was showing incorrectly on the club computer, which didn't affect my shots in the next comp, but now it's changed by 0.3 it does from the blue tees.