Green Man
Assistant Pro
Obviously it’s more important to have the holes name than a column for a 4th player.
World Handicap System (WHS)
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Obviously it’s more important to have the holes name than a column for a 4th player.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
So is there an advantage to playing off the reds .. nail a score .. and get a benefit?
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
No they barely change which indicates there is an issue with the system, I will benefit because I get more shots can’t see it being good though
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
do a few test calculations and you will most changes are small particularly if you are shooting within one or 2 shots of H.I.
I am going a bit the other way round (worse not better)
This my chart and you see from that it takes a significant number of poor scores to change my H.I by m ore than a shot.
It is better than the UHS as under that system the change would have taken about 3 years
Mozza14
Newbie
They haven't plotted your current HI (10.0) ? The graph is inherently wrong with the HI lagging behind the differential by one place across the graph.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
I think the green is supposed to be it... but it doesn’t look correct, unless they have a fudge factor
yeah yours should show a more upward trend if the system is tracking each event, visually I have you at 10.5-11, your high scores cause little or no fluctuations
Mozza14
Newbie
No fudge factor, it doesn't display the final HI for anyone. It's rubbish.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Yes that’s probably a fair assessment
Foxholer
Blackballed
As that graph does not show 'the last 20' at the point of the first currently counting score (the leftmost yellow one', your statement above is invalid! It looks (cursorily) fine for the current position - with 5 out of the last 7 scores counting and for the 2 or 3 previous ones - if working backwards from the current pos. Moving back 1 score would bring the first (currently) out-of-range (blue) score into the calc; moving back 1 or 2 further would bring 2 of the (currently) non-counting (red), but not excessively high scores into the calc, as they both appear to be lower than the earlier blue ones.
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Mozza14
Newbie
Check your own last 20 graph. Is the current HI the same plotted end point on the graph?
My graph shows a HI of 5.4 . My current HI is 6.2.
Foxholer
Blackballed
I don't currently have one available, so no can do!
Not entirely sure how that would happen. Do the scores used match? Is the graph 1 score out-of-date (missing your latest one)?
woofers
Medal Winner
The green line appears to be the HI as at the beginning of the round, rather than the HI following completion of the round. So, yes, it looks as thought the dots should be moved one to the left, which would allow the calculated index from the final round to be shown.
Mozza14
Newbie
The graph works of the table of 'My Scores'. The current HI is not shown in that table. The table shows the last score and differential but lists the HI played with rather than the resulting Index. The resulting final Handicap Index is shown in Overview only.
It is a bizarre way to display the data either tabulated or graphical.
The most important plot on the graph should be the HI you end up with and it isn't there and every plotted point is one place out so the lines don't move in unison correctly.
Robster59
Tour Rookie
I want involved in the design but I'd imagine you put that in the +/- column.
Previously we had the hole names on the course plan.
Mozza14
Newbie
Exactly. I pointed this out in the thread I started here but it gained no traction and I was told it would be corrected by more data being uploaded.!!
https://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/threads/wghs-bugs-and-design-issues.107031/
Foxholer
Blackballed
That's what I suspected - and why I asked about the most recent one.
Indeed, a slightly bizarre/not particularly useful graph!
woofers
Medal Winner
In the column labelled ‘Markers score / C’ ?
upsidedown
Tour Winner
That's how Dot golf have always done it to best of my knowledge
Mozza14
Newbie
Cheers. The table of scores is equally misleading . It would be far more informative to have the resultant Index shown rather than the previous one.
Mozza14
Newbie
Possibly, but does that mean it is useful and informative? Perhaps it has been wrong all along. The 50 and 100 score graphs are even more misaligned.
