World Handicap System (WHS)

[Voyager EMH]

That's not the point though is it.

People were saying that the Course Handicap is "irrelevant".
It's not irrelevant at all because you need to use it to arrive at your Playing Handicap.

Bearing in mind that it's a new system and people are still learning how it works, saying the CH is irrelevant is not true and a misleading choice of wording. Yes, once you have your PH and you're just playing a match, you "no longer use" your CH, but you needed it to get to the PH in the first place.

No you don't. You could have another board that shows index range and strokes received for individual strokeplay without any reference to course handicap.

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[Imurg]

What have you got against Course Handicap?

 

[Imurg]

Plain English needs to be used to explain it properly, not shortcuts with misleading statements.

This
In spades.
A lot of people don't get WHS yet.

 

[doublebogey7]

Indeed.
In fact the guys who's handicap ends in 6 seem to be dipping out a bit.

Under the old system, your guy off 1, playing a guy off 6,gave 90% of 5 = 5. Now, 90% of 1 =1, 90% of 6 = 5.4 = 5, so it's 4 shots.

For all other numbers the shots are the same before and after until the higher guy is off 16, before was 14 shots, now is 13.

Moral of the story, don't be off 6,16 or 26 under WHS as you're losing a shot in matchplay... ?

Are you sure, by my calculation players with handicaps of 2 & 7, 3 & 8, 4 & 9 etc are effected in exactly the same way.

 

[jim8flog]

Individual strokeplay Playing Handicap = (HI x slope/113) rounded then 95%. Thus stopping halfway through the calculation to take note of your Course Handicap when you are not returning a score for handicap adjustment is pointless/irrelevant. You "need" a Handicap Index to start the calculation, but you don't "need" your Course Handicap if you are not returning a score for handicap assessment and adjustment. You do "need" your correct Playing Handicap when playing with and against others.

As said in previous comments what a player does amongst his mates is up to them. Who really cares what they all do. We very rarely hole out with a lot of gimmes anyway thereby making the rounds null and void under the rules of golf.

 

[ger147]

No you don't...

Yes you do.

 

[Voyager EMH]

No I don't

 

[ger147]

No I don't

Yes you do...

 

[Voyager EMH]

I refer the gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago.

 

[ger147]

I refer the gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago.

And I refer you to the fact I posted above ??

 

[Voyager EMH]

I can go straight from Handicap Index to 95% of Course Handicap by looking at a board or table.

 

[ger147]

I can go straight from Handicap Index to 95% of Course Handicap by looking at a board or table.

As per the definitions I posted above, what you are doing is calculating your couse handicap and then multiplying it by your handicap allowance to arrive at your playing handicap. ??

 

[SammmeBee]

No I don't

You’ve just got a table that misses out the CH bit - well done you - albeit no good for other formats of play, which are numerous.

I’d rather know my CH and then apply the applicable bits, although the Committee can do that bit for me as it’s not my job really....

 

[Voyager EMH]

Congratulations ?

Where is that board located?

Attachment to 2539. I could print it large and stick it to the pro shop window in two weeks time. But I don't think I'll bother.

 

[ger147]

Attachment to 2539. I could print it large and stick it to the pro shop window in two weeks time. But I don't think I'll bother.

You would need a lot of tables...

 

[jim8flog]

I can go straight from Handicap Index to 95% of Course Handicap by looking at a board or table.

Not the boards where I play. As the person responsible for posting all things WHS where I play we do not have tables posted either.

It can be found in the 'MY GOLF' section of IG in my account via the web or via the app.

 

[Voyager EMH]

You’ve just got a table that misses out the CH bit - well done you - albeit no good for other formats of play, which are numerous.

I’d rather know my CH and then apply the applicable bits, although the Committee can do that bit for me as it’s not my job really....

I'll be doing the same as you. I made the table for others who are struggling to understand the new system. They just wanted to know what they would be playing off in medals and stablefords. They found the calculations too confusing to be sure they were doing it correctly.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Attachment to 2539. I could print it large and stick it to the pro shop window in two weeks time. But I don't think I'll bother.

Im unsure why you are complicating matters

Playing HC = Course Handicap * HC Allowance for the format you are playing

Keep it simple

You need to know your course handicap for every single round play

 

[jim8flog]

Attachment to 2539. I could print it large and stick it to the pro shop window in two weeks time. But I don't think I'll bother.

That PDF only shows H.I. to Course is does not show 95%.

 

[Voyager EMH]

That PDF only shows H.I. to Course is does not show 95%.

Yes it does. The ranges would be different if it were 100% CH