World Handicap System (WHS)

[rulefan]

I got my first official handicap last year after finally taking the plunge and joining a club. I only managed 3 competitions due to a wrist injury which meant that when it came to converting my handicap to WHS they only took one card into account. My CONGU handicap was 15.2 (and falling) but my WHS index is now 10.1!

Feels like it will take a while this upcoming season for it to level out to what it should be.

With only 3 scores your allocated Index would be your lowest minus 2.0

 

[IanM]

Blimey. I'd forgotten all about WHS!!

 

[Old Skier]

Blimey. I'd forgotten all about WHS!!

If only

 

[howbow88]

By all accounts, my course is an utter mess right now and will not be ready by April fully. In particular, 3 greens have undergone a complete rebuild. In the long term it's good news, providing they have carried out the work properly... it is annoying that they couldn't have started this work last year though.

Either way, the latest news is, and I quote: 'if we have good Spring weather, the 3 greens should be ready for the start of Summer.' I'm very much taking that as 'if we're lucky, you'll get to to play on them at some point before the end of the year.'

Anyway, my question: If we only play 15 holes in competition, roll up, whatever, am I correct in thinking that this round will still count for WHS purposes? I'm sure I read that rounds like this will be sort of pro-rataed... Is that right?

 

[D-S]

Yes, you can play 15 hole competitions will will qualify for handicap under WHS.

 

[rulefan]

See Rule 3
At least 14 holes - Add net par (or equivalent Stableford points).

 

[jim8flog]

Blimey. I'd forgotten all about WHS!!

I thought you had decided to forget about it as soon as you heard about it

 

[AliMc]

Have to say that after a couple of initial tweeks mine is correct, played 4 GP rounds so far using the SG App, have to say it has worked perfectly and is super slick, didn't think I would be saying that !

This is my thought exactly, have now submitted 7 GP scores through the SG App and the whole process really is very slick

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Question for those in the know. Had a look at the WHS app earlier. It appears to make barely any difference where I would play. I would be playing off the same PH whether it be any of the open tracks off the championship tees or my own or most local courses. A couple of shortish par 66 tracks I lose a shot. Strange....

Also the app won't let me look at any scottish tracks which is crap considering the border is closer to me than Lancashire or Northumberland.....

 

[Griffsters]

Quick thoughts, are you a low handicap index? When you get into single figures your playing handicap is lesser affected.

Also, when you say WHS app do you mean the My England Golf app? For the Scotland courses you'll need the Scottish ruling body app as well, likewise Wales I would imagine

 

[AliMc]

Question for those in the know. Had a look at the WHS app earlier. It appears to make barely any difference where I would play. I would be playing off the same PH whether it be any of the open tracks off the championship tees or my own or most local courses. A couple of shortish par 66 tracks I lose a shot. Strange....

Also the app won't let me look at any scottish tracks which is crap considering the border is closer to me than Lancashire or Northumberland.....

I had a look at this a while ago regarding my own situation, HI is 5.5. Dunbar where I play is slope 128, to gain one shot i think the course had to be more than 140, to lose a shot I think it was less than 118 if I remember correctly, of all the courses I looked at in my rough area the only courses where I would get one shot more was either Muirfield or The Roxburghe but here only from the blue tees.

 

[howbow88]

Apologies if I am covering old ground but when clubs open in a few weeks, can I play a course that isn't my 'home course' and add that round to my handicap?

I remember there being talk of this being available through the MyEG app, but I haven't heard anything more.

 

[jim8flog]

I had a look at this a while ago regarding my own situation, HI is 5.5. Dunbar where I play is slope 128, to gain one shot i think the course had to be more than 140, to lose a shot I think it was less than 118 if I remember correctly, of all the courses I looked at in my rough area the only courses where I would get one shot more was either Muirfield or The Roxburghe but here only from the blue tees.

This is part of why there is a further calculation to playing handicap. Where it is 141 say you go there with a mate who is 10.5 you will 'gain' 1 shot they will 'gain'
2 shots so the difference now between the 2 of you now becomes bigger, however with a 95% allowance the difference between you remains the same.

 

[jim8flog]

Apologies if I am covering old ground but when clubs open in a few weeks, can I play a course that isn't my 'home course' and add that round to my handicap?

I remember there being talk of this being available through the MyEG app, but I haven't heard anything more.

Assuming you are just playing socially you have to preregister the round at that club as a General Play round to add it to your handicap. The ability to register at the club is supposed to be a feature of the app.

If you are playing in a comp there, such as an Open, it will be automatic and you do not need to do anything.

 

[3offTheTee]

This my seem a stupid question and if so apologies.

This was taken from England Golf re PLAYING HANDICAP FOR COMPETITION PURPOSES.

Surely this will include roll ups and say Match play between 4 friends. This is competitive golf is it not?

Have I miss read

The most important aspects of Playing Handicap to remember are:
• It is only used for competition purposes
• Itensuresequitytocalculatecompetitionresults(viaHandicapAllowances)
• Golfers do not need to calculate it (it is generated before their round)
• Golfers should continue to play in the mindset of their Course Handicap in competition rounds
• It is a mandatory stroke allowance that must be implemented in competition play

 

[jim8flog]

Match play -
In a 4 Ball Better Ball match play each player checks their

Handicap Index , converts this to their Course Handicap then converts this to their Playing Handicap (90% of Course Handicap).

Each player, as appropriate, gets the difference between their Playing Handicap and the player with lowest Playing Handicap.

In Singles match play Playing Handicap = Course Handicap

The highest handicapped player gets 100% of the difference between their Playing Handicaps.

What you do in rollups is up to the organiser of the rollup assuming it is not a club organised one. We leave it as course handicap for easiness.

 

[3offTheTee]

Thanks Jim

Thant is what I understood. However it quotes that playing handicap is only used for competition purposes. My query was surely when 4 turn up for match play it is a competition

 

[rulefan]

Thanks Jim

Thant is what I understood. However it quotes that playing handicap is only used for competition purposes. My query was surely when 4 turn up for match play it is a competition

But match play is not an authorised format for handicap purposes so playing handicap is irrelevant.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Match play -
In a 4 Ball Better Ball match play each player checks their

Handicap Index , converts this to their Course Handicap then converts this to their Playing Handicap (90% of Course Handicap).

Each player, as appropriate, gets the difference between their Playing Handicap and the player with lowest Playing Handicap.

In Singles match play Playing Handicap = Course Handicap

The highest handicapped player gets 100% of the difference between their Playing Handicaps.

What you do in rollups is up to the organiser of the rollup assuming it is not a club organised one. We leave it as course handicap for easiness.

That’s handy to know. 4BBB Match play now isn’t 90% of the difference. Everyone gets 90% and then it’s the full difference.

 

[3offTheTee]

But match play is not an authorised format for handicap purposes so playing handicap is irrelevant.

RF
Are you saying for Match Play you therefore play Course Handicap?

if so what else should we play Course handicap please nd where may I find the info. pleas?