World Cup

[Deleted member 15344]

I've played non league and been involved with several non league clubs over the years so have a damn fine idea how the pyramid works. The question was you want these clubs to start at the bottom. Are you really expecting them to start conference or below? Thats not going to get anyone interested in playing

You know how the FA runs? Really. Are you on one of the committees? Again you're missing the point or more likely ignoring it as is your way with other threads. The point is the FA and PL may well blame each other but they aren't going away and util they work as a unified body there are too many vested interests to make the German blueprint viable.

I dismissed Klingsmann as surely you'd need an English man to solve the problem. Will a German ever really have the good of English football at heart and would they really give him this rod of iron (whatever that is)

I didn't "want " anything if you actually read what I said "IF" the clubs wish to enter a B Team then they must start at the bottom. They can't take the place of other clubs who have earned the right to be in the respective leagues so just as any new team starts from the bottom then a B team starts from the bottom.

The prem and FA don't need to work together !! The FA can sort out the national sides without the say so of the Prem - they can force the issue - they are the governing body of football in this country - they can sort out coaching out grass roots , they can fund the ability to get more UEFA coaches in the country , they can change the way the under 15 to under 21 national team works , they can sort out a strong reserve league - far too much resolving of the blame for the FA. You keep dismissing the ability to make changes - and one day the FA will wake up.

Why do you need an Englishman to sort out our football ? Are the English the only people who know what they are talking about ? Klinsmann seems to have zero issue helping out the states ! - people dismissing foreign managers is why we have Hodgson and why McClaren was given the job - Get someone in who knows what he is doing regardless of what he nationality

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I didn't "want " anything if you actually read what I said "IF" the clubs wish to enter a B Team then they must start at the bottom. They can't take the place of other clubs who have earned the right to be in the respective leagues so just as any new team starts from the bottom then a B team starts from the bottom.

The prem and FA don't need to work together !! The FA can sort out the national sides without the say so of the Prem - they can force the issue - they are the governing body of football in this country - they can sort out coaching out grass roots , they can fund the ability to get more UEFA coaches in the country , they can change the way the under 15 to under 21 national team works , they can sort out a strong reserve league - far too much resolving of the blame for the FA. You keep dismissing the ability to make changes - and one day the FA will wake up.

Why do you need an Englishman to sort out our football ? Are the English the only people who know what they are talking about ? Klinsmann seems to have zero issue helping out the states ! - people dismissing foreign managers is why we have Hodgson and why McClaren was given the job - Get someone in who knows what he is doing regardless of what he nationality

Maybe your on the Klingsmann payroll as he seems to be the only man for the job??

If you start a team in the lower echelon of the non league pyramid with the hope of attracting the bright young talent, what incentive is there for a Chelsea, Arsenal or anyone else to put their developing stars from their U18 or reserve sides to play Banstead Athletic. They have to be getting football of a realistic and competitive level or surely the plan will never work? I'm just interested to see how you can see any feasibility in that

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe your on the Klingsmann payroll as he seems to be the only man for the job??

If you start a team in the lower echelon of the non league pyramid with the hope of attracting the bright young talent, what incentive is there for a Chelsea, Arsenal or anyone else to put their developing stars from their U18 or reserve sides to play Banstead Athletic. They have to be getting football of a realistic and competitive level or surely the plan will never work? I'm just interested to see how you can see any feasibility in that

I don't see any feasibility in big clubs starting a second team hence why I don't like the idea hence why I said so from the start !!!!

And Klinsmann is just an idea - but he is the type of person we need -someone who is found because of their abilities and not their passport or the fact they are a yes man for the FA

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I don't see any feasibility in big clubs starting a second team hence why I don't like the idea hence why I said so from the start !!!!

And Klinsmann is just an idea - but he is the type of person we need -someone who is found because of their abilities and not their passport or the fact they are a yes man for the FA

Hang on a mo! It was you arguing last night for this German blueprint which includes these feeder teams. And you were advocating the Spanish one where the likes of Barca and Real have teams playing in the lower divisions of La Liga. Thats a pretty darn big U turn

 

[c1973]

Anyway, back on topic. I fancy Argentina 2-1 after extra time tonight. The Dutch will make a game of it but I think the Argies will be a little bit too much for them. Mind you the Dutch will not half fancy a crack at the Germans to get their first world cup trophy. It could be another cracker.

An Argentina Germany final for me, my tips from the start.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Neither side fill me with defensive confidence and so we could get an open an attacking again.. unless those pesky Argies get the lead and start the play acting. I have a feeling Messi will come up with something special and I'm going Argentiana 2-1

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Chances on a bit of Wagnerian behaviour by the Dutch this evening? van Persie had a go against Spain but we know that there is only one Flying Dutchman.

I'd rather like a Germany Netherlands final - 40 yrs after their previous meeting in the final. Memories of me on Scout Summer Camp by a river just outside of Moffat sat on a log, watching it on a little portable B&W telly powered by a car battery. We all wanted Netherlands to win. But first tonight it's the replay of the 1978 ticker-tape final and the flowing locks of Mario Kempes.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Before the tournament 2 of my bets were:

Brazil to win it.
Argies top goal scorers.
Looks like both went out of the window last night

 

[Rumpokid]

I think this is a given now. He'll be pickled.

Ha ha..He was a bit hung over.Come good after 3 holes at Preston G.C...He's a top man..Even brought his Deutschland towel and put it on one of the chairs outside clubhouse..Everyone was in hysterics..Great day was had all round..

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Hang on a mo! It was you arguing last night for this German blueprint which includes these feeder teams. And you were advocating the Spanish one where the likes of Barca and Real have teams playing in the lower divisions of La Liga. Thats a pretty darn big U turn

The only blueprint I have ever advocated is the way they deal with their national teams and ensuring the same tactics and formation is used throughout the age groups - not once have I ever advocated using the league blueprint of B Teams - and if you read my posts you would see that clear as day - no u turn has been made. You have argued against point that I never made and I have tried telling you that - if you need further clarification then please read back through my posts


And back onto tonight

Would really like to see a Messi master class - he has been on the edge of a special performance and has the stage to destroy the Dutch

 

[Rumpokid]

Hope the Dutch smash the Argies..Bring it on.

 

[cookelad]

Think Argentina will sneak through tonight I imagine it'll be closer than last nights match, think the Argies'll really want to rub salt in the Brazilian wounds!

 

[Rumpokid]

Hope tonight's match can be half as good, or bad depending on your view of last nights..Game on in 15....

 

[c1973]

Eight nil to the Argies.........

 

[Rumpokid]

Eight nil to the Argies.........

Nah, up the Orangemen..

 

[Imurg]

I reckon the European team will be 5-0 up inside half an hour, eventually turning over the South Americans by a record scoreline.....


Oh, hang on that was last night wasn't it...?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

All a bit cagey at the moment. Can see this going all the way to extra time and pens unless someone sorts it out. Not edge of the seat stuff is it

 

[HomerJSimpson]

So the Dutch have used all three subs and heading to penalties. No Krul coming on so it makes the decision against Costa Rica even stranger. Surely if Krul is bigger and better you'd want him in goal. Said it was mad at the time and think the decision not to repeat shows it wasn't tactical genius and more a random and bizzare thing to do

 

[Piece]

Dull and duller this game. Yawn. Zzzzzz.

 

[c1973]

So the Dutch have used all three subs and heading to penalties. No Krul coming on so it makes the decision against Costa Rica even stranger. Surely if Krul is bigger and better you'd want him in goal. Said it was mad at the time and think the decision not to repeat shows it wasn't tactical genius and more a random and bizzare thing to do

The words a dog,bone,like, with, a spring to mind.

Not the best of games but opening up a bit at last.