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World Cup

To be fair though it was Brazil being shocking and easier to pick fault, especially for Hansen

You still need to beat what's in front of you and Germany were clinical. A great team performance. Agree Brazil were shocking though.
 
1 player from the Under 21 tournament for England last summer made the WC squad - Henderson

The blueprint is continually being proven to work - if England want to gain success then it's a blueprint they need to copy - no idea where you get it's cost being too much from ?! The English FA has bigger budgets that both Spain and Germany ! By a long way

Interesting.How many made it to the Germany squad for this years WC?
 
1 player from the Under 21 tournament for England last summer made the WC squad - Henderson

The blueprint is continually being proven to work - if England want to gain success then it's a blueprint they need to copy - no idea where you get it's cost being too much from ?! The English FA has bigger budgets that both Spain and Germany ! By a long way

Whether it comes to pounds and pence or not and I still think the FA will be reluctant to invest in such a policy especially with St Georges Park to pay off. The FA, like FIF itself are self interested and don't serve the greater good of the game. It's irrelevant whether the blueprint works, it won't change. Please accept that or give me facts to support your belief that it will
 
What under 21 tournament was there this year ? There was one last year and all our top under 21's pulled out of it

Imagine if they had played and gained the expirence and then used that in this tournament - just like Germany and Spain etc
That's irrelevant, the teams you mentioned would leave players in their u21s until they had experience. Calling the young English players up for this World Cup will mean they won't go to later tournaments for u21's.
 
Cash in grass roots. There's the first stumbling block with the FA set up as it is

Yep. It's not only the FA though, the clubs need to change as well, unfortunately greed and a sense of self interest will prevail. It's a shame as it's not difficult to do, it's just difficult to get people to do it.

Like I said earlier, I wish the sfa would look at it as well.
 
Come on Phil how many German U-21'S made it from last year to this years world cup?


Here's Wee Chesney's formation for our match v Germany in Dortmund in September - :lol:

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Yep. It's not only the FA though, the clubs need to change as well, unfortunately greed and a sense of self interest will prevail. It's a shame as it's not difficult to do, it's just difficult to get people to do it.

Like I said earlier, I wish the sfa would look at it as well.

Add to that the fact that none of the top teams have English managers why would a foreign manager buy into anything that helps the national squad over their team?
 
That's irrelevant, the teams you mentioned would leave players in their u21s until they had experience. Calling the young English players up for this World Cup will mean they won't go to later tournaments for u21's.

Why won't they ? Thiago went back to the Under 21's after also playing for Spanish Main squad

Mata did the same also - as did Goetze and Draxler ( both got injured )

There is no reason why a player who is eligible to play U21 shouldn't - but for England they don't.
 
Come on Phil how many German U-21'S made it from last year to this years world cup?


Here's Wee Chesney's formation for our match v Germany in Dortmund in September - :lol:

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From the initial squad 5 until 3 pulled out with injury
 
Something that struck me about Germany during the USA game. Their starting 11 included 7 players from Bayern Munich. Seven.
So the best team in Germany is supplying the majority of the national team.
Looks a bit different in England.

Unbelievable game tonight. Brazil have been crap all tournament, the manner of this defeat is still shocking. Brilliant from Germany
 
, our young players aren't good enough, if our future is Barkley, Sturridge, sterling and lallana I'd be prepared for a lot more years of leaving tournaments early, nothing to do with getting experience, not one player stood out at this World Cup, another golden generation that will just pass through, we'll qualify for the euros and we'll be having the same conversation in two years time,
 
, our young players aren't good enough, if our future is Barkley, Sturridge, sterling and lallana I'd be prepared for a lot more years of leaving tournaments early, nothing to do with getting experience, not one player stood out at this World Cup, another golden generation that will just pass through, we'll qualify for the euros and we'll be having the same conversation in two years time,

Current crop are hardly a 'golden generation' though are they? More like 'a few players who may well show some ability to control the ball' at best.
 
I wouldn't be judging the potential and ability of those players based on the World Cup.
 
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