Women's World Cup

Wolf said:
As someone with a 12 year old daughter that started playing the game this season just past and plays either centre back of defensive midfield, we've tried to watch as much of the World Cup as possible. Have to say tonight performance was absolutely nothing short of a terrible advert for women's football. The pace of play from England was slow, barely string passes together, the defence was shocking especially the positioning of players for the goals. The penalty was barely a back pass let line an attempt on goal.

After the game my daughter actually picked out how poor it was where we were lacking and said she does defensive drills to point where at 12 years old she knows at all times where she should be so why can't the England players get basics right. I literally couldn't answer other than perhaps the occasion was to big.

They've done well to get this far tbh but tonight the difference in class showed why the US have for sometime been the best in the women's game. But as bad an advert as it was, it's made my daughter want to play even more knowing that there are now opportunities for girls like her to go on the big stage such as this, so hopefully it continues to grow the game for budding players like my little lass.
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Think we need to cut them some slack.
I can remember the men’s England team serving up some very poor performances.
Also the heat must have affected all teams .
The USA were not that good either tonight
 
clubchamp98 said:
Think we need to cut them some slack.
I can remember the men’s England team serving up some very poor performances.
Also the heat must have affected all teams .
The USA were not that good either tonight
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I agree that's why when asked I said it was perhaps the situation.

I don't rate the men's team tbh, been a long time since I've enjoyed watching England men's team play football. I don't bother watching the friendlies or qualifying games anymore as we often seem uninventive and lacking in quality. We did well last year but that was more through getting a good side of the draw and once we played a decent team got outclassed and lost.

The women's team on the other hand for most of this tournament have played some good football up until tonight. It was not a great game for either side but the US showed their class when it was needed but that comes with experience of big tournament games which they have.

Overall this has served as a good platform for the ladies team has got them more coverage which is only a good thing and helps girls like my daughter build there interest, it doesn't matter what any of us men think of it I don't compare it to the men's game just like I don't the ladies golf. This game and others will grow the more girls get involved and the more exposure the better.

So far this year I've a 12 year daughter start football thanks to increased coverage of the game on TV, a 5 year old daughter with a real passion and eye for golf thanks to seeing the mixed events on TV showing her girls and boys can play together. My 7 year old has taken to gymnastics like a duck to water thanks to seeing coverage on TV. My boys already did sports but now the girls are seeing more it's a real positive so long may it Continue on all sports. Tell you what though having 6 kids doing different sports is starting to feel expensive 😂
 
Up until last night, and bar a couple of instances, I would have said the women’s game had been devoid of the diving and acting so prevalent in the men’s game. Last nights game I feel is the start of the change that sees the women follow the men. The USA were abysmal with their diving and throwing themselves to the ground, and I fear that game will be the start of the very slippery slope.
 
Women’s Football will face the same issues as sports like Hockey

During 2012 Olympics the hockey games where all sold out quicker than most of other sports - it was superb , the sport attracted new players but it dwindled down when out of the tv limelight

In 2016 over 10 mil UK viewers watched the Women win the biggest Hockey Comp there is at the Olympics - again people started to play the game but then dwindled again due to lack of exposure - the international pro league is on Bt Sport but only hockey fans will watch it same with the crowds at the games but because the top domestic leagues go no coverage at all , the players aren’t fully professional then it’s just not going to grab people , the same with Women’s Football - interest will be high whilst tournament on , once it goes it just goes away because the league coverage is prob hidden away somewhere and it’s certainly not something ITV , BBC or Sky are going to put on their main channels
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Women’s Football will face the same issues as sports like Hockey

During 2012 Olympics the hockey games where all sold out quicker than most of other sports - it was superb , the sport attracted new players but it dwindled down when out of the tv limelight

In 2016 over 10 mil UK viewers watched the Women win the biggest Hockey Comp there is at the Olympics - again people started to play the game but then dwindled again due to lack of exposure - the international pro league is on Bt Sport but only hockey fans will watch it same with the crowds at the games but because the top domestic leagues go no coverage at all , the players aren’t fully professional then it’s just not going to grab people , the same with Women’s Football - interest will be high whilst tournament on , once it goes it just goes away because the league coverage is prob hidden away somewhere and it’s certainly not something ITV , BBC or Sky are going to put on their main channels
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No it won't and to be honest a poor argument. Football is a massive sport in places like the US where female participation at college level by women now outstrips that by men. Add in places like Sweden and most of Europe where the game is growing and wait for the Asian market to catch up like the Chinese mens league now. Hockey is a minority. There is already coverage in the UK for the womens PL and cup and the BBC will continue to push their coverage of England so it is already getting an audience.

Off the back of the England journey to the semi-final and the publicity in the press, on TV (BBC at prime time) and especially social media with a host of sporting starts and celebrities endorsing the Lionesses then it can only help attract youngsters to the game. The biggest issues will be a lack of suitable clubs for them to join, decent coaching and access to training and playing facilities and that is then down to the FA to help pump all this money aimed at grassroots into helping the womens game as well as the mens
 
HomerJSimpson said:
No it won't and to be honest a poor argument. Football is a massive sport in places like the US where female participation at college level by women now outstrips that by men. Add in places like Sweden and most of Europe where the game is growing and wait for the Asian market to catch up like the Chinese mens league now. Hockey is a minority. There is already coverage in the UK for the womens PL and cup and the BBC will continue to push their coverage of England so it is already getting an audience.

Off the back of the England journey to the semi-final and the publicity in the press, on TV (BBC at prime time) and especially social media with a host of sporting starts and celebrities endorsing the Lionesses then it can only help attract youngsters to the game. The biggest issues will be a lack of suitable clubs for them to join, decent coaching and access to training and playing facilities and that is then down to the FA to help pump all this money aimed at grassroots into helping the womens game as well as the mens
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The BBC only televise it because they have little budget available for sport and are incapable of competing for mens football. If yesterday's match is the best that our country has to offer I, for one, would never watch the league and cup matches that they would show. I absolutely wanted England to win but the standard was pretty dire and i cant see too many supporters either switching from watching mens football or adding it to their normal sport viewing.

Having said that I'm all for women playing the game at whatever level they aspire to, I loved football and would still play now if I only could
 
chrisd said:
The BBC only televise it because they have little budget available for sport and are incapable of competing for mens football. If yesterday's match is the best that our country has to offer I, for one, would never watch the league and cup matches that they would show. I absolutely wanted England to win but the standard was pretty dire and i cant see too many supporters either switching from watching mens football or adding it to their normal sport viewing.

Having said that I'm all for women playing the game at whatever level they aspire to, I loved football and would still play now if I only could
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I have to agree that the standard on show last night was poor and there is a long way to go technically in the female game. I will suggest that perhaps the pressure told a little and was partially to blame. The mens side looked equally inept technically in their Nations Cup semi final!

The TV presentation on offer by the BBC was poor but there again I feel their TV presentation in most sporting events is poor even the little mens footie they get to show. I don't think there is any chance or even any real intention of trying to entice supporters away from the mens game but more a case of trying to let youngsters especially the girls find something they can latch onto for themselves and enjoy.
 
I quite enjoy watching women's football, in the sense that I enjoy watching pretty much any football. I don't try and hold it up against the men's game, because it's just different. In the men's game everyone at the top level has good technical ability, so extremely physical players with power and pace tend to stand out. In the women's game, there are not many who blow the others away with physical attributes, but in fact those with high technique are the ones who stand out as it's less common. That doesn't lessen the enjoyment for me, when I was injured a year ago I used to go and watch my Sunday team and still enjoy that. It's just football.
 
Wolf said:
I agree that's why when asked I said it was perhaps the situation.

I don't rate the men's team tbh, been a long time since I've enjoyed watching England men's team play football. I don't bother watching the friendlies or qualifying games anymore as we often seem uninventive and lacking in quality. We did well last year but that was more through getting a good side of the draw and once we played a decent team got outclassed and lost.

The women's team on the other hand for most of this tournament have played some good football up until tonight. It was not a great game for either side but the US showed their class when it was needed but that comes with experience of big tournament games which they have.

Overall this has served as a good platform for the ladies team has got them more coverage which is only a good thing and helps girls like my daughter build there interest, it doesn't matter what any of us men think of it I don't compare it to the men's game just like I don't the ladies golf. This game and others will grow the more girls get involved and the more exposure the better.

So far this year I've a 12 year daughter start football thanks to increased coverage of the game on TV, a 5 year old daughter with a real passion and eye for golf thanks to seeing the mixed events on TV showing her girls and boys can play together. My 7 year old has taken to gymnastics like a duck to water thanks to seeing coverage on TV. My boys already did sports but now the girls are seeing more it's a real positive so long may it Continue on all sports. Tell you what though having 6 kids doing different sports is starting to feel expensive 😂
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Good luck with all that !
You need to fit golf in there somewhere!
 
clubchamp98 said:
Good luck with all that !
You need to fit golf in there somewhere!
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Thank god for Sundays they don't have sport son then and Summer evenings means I get a bit of time to myself 😂

Worst one is my youngest boy, he does the bambino Go Karting circuit he's bloody good to if I say so myself at 8 year's old he is now competing in the under 15s has he had won to high a percentage of his races and lap times in the bambino carts put him up a level 2 years early. But it's bloody expensive and lots of travel especially as he is small have to have adaptation on some karts they use. But the boy is lightening fast and aggressive with it, which is ironic as off the track he's so relaxed and chilled as well as being overly shy it's a complete contrast. But that's what's good about sport brings out the best in him
 
Wolf said:
Thank god for Sundays they don't have sport son then and Summer evenings means I get a bit of time to myself 😂

Worst one is my youngest boy, he does the bambino Go Karting circuit he's bloody good to if I say so myself at 8 year's old he is now competing in the under 15s has he had won to high a percentage of his races and lap times in the bambino carts put him up a level 2 years early. But it's bloody expensive and lots of travel especially as he is small have to have adaptation on some karts they use. But the boy is lightening fast and aggressive with it, which is ironic as off the track he's so relaxed and chilled as well as being overly shy it's a complete contrast. But that's what's good about sport brings out the best in him
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We were talking about this in the club yesterday .( Diego Costa)
My brother was as mild mannered as they come, but he changed into a lunatic as soon as he put his footy boots on.
If your going to be good at something you need a ruthless streak.
It’s something I have thought lots of English footballers lack
Hope he does well maybe you have a next F1 driver that’s not a bad life .
 
clubchamp98 said:
We were talking about this in the club yesterday .( Diego Costa)
My brother was as mild mannered as they come, but he changed into a lunatic as soon as he put his footy boots on.
If your going to be good at something you need a ruthless streak.
It’s something I have thought lots of English footballers lack
Hope he does well maybe you have a next F1 driver that’s not a bad life .
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I'd completely agree with you on that, my little lad literally won't even tell you he doesn't like certain foods incase he upsets someone, he so timid. But he puts the helmet on and gets in the Kart and something switches in him he takes aggressive lines, pushes people and never let's up, gets out the kart and shy kid returns.

I think it's something that is potentially within us but you're right the British sports stars are often lacking. If he gets that far it'll be amazing if he chooses not to that's fsir enough as he is happy.
 
Orikoru said:
I quite enjoy watching women's football, in the sense that I enjoy watching pretty much any football. I don't try and hold it up against the men's game, because it's just different. In the men's game everyone at the top level has good technical ability, so extremely physical players with power and pace tend to stand out. In the women's game, there are not many who blow the others away with physical attributes, but in fact those with high technique are the ones who stand out as it's less common. That doesn't lessen the enjoyment for me, when I was injured a year ago I used to go and watch my Sunday team and still enjoy that. It's just football.
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The above for me..👍

I enjoyed it last night, then again I just enjoy watching football at all levels. For me most games are enjoyable to watch if the teams are evenly matched. Many a time I’d pull over and watch a Sunday league game for 15-20 mins.

Shame about last night, I thought the girls did well, surprised at how much fitter and stronger the USA appeared.
Surely fitness should not be an issue going into a World Cup, I’d imagine if the men’s team got out muscled and overrun like that serious questions would be asked.
 
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Bunkermagnet said:
Up until last night, and bar a couple of instances, I would have said the women’s game had been devoid of the diving and acting so prevalent in the men’s game. Last nights game I feel is the start of the change that sees the women follow the men. The USA were abysmal with their diving and throwing themselves to the ground, and I fear that game will be the start of the very slippery slope.
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Only saw a bit of the game while channel surfing, but the bit I did see was a USA player throwing herself to the ground, tis quite poor.

But on the flip side I saw some of a Norway game and one of the Norway players was fouled by the opposition keeper and could've easily gone down to try and get a penalty but she stayed up and put a good cross in, so not all players/teams were like the USA team.
 
Khamelion said:
Only saw a bit of the game while channel surfing, but the bit I did see was a USA player throwing herself to the ground, tis quite poor.

But on the flip side I saw some of a Norway game and one of the Norway players was fouled by the opposition keeper and could've easily gone down to try and get a penalty but she stayed up and put a good cross in, so not all players/teams were like the USA team.
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In the US you are taught that you can do anything.
Here you get a medal for taking part.
Fitness shouldn’t be a reason at that level but mentality is.
 
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