Women's World Cup

[Fade and Die]

I must have missed something. VAR has allowed ruled out goals too hasn’t it?

I’m not saying it’s perfect yet, or the answers to everything. But the goal we had ruled out was the correct decision and didn’t disrupt any natural flow as a goal being scored creates a natural break in a game.

Want to have a little wager it rules out more goals than it allows next season? £50 to charity of choice?

 

[Orikoru]

I only put this on after 55 minutes and it's been an unmitigated disaster since. Our goal being ruled out is nonsense, VAR is supposed to only rule out 'clear and obvious errors'. No linesman would ever see that one of her toes was offside, for all intents and purposes they are level, so it should have stood. The penalty was a shocker as well, she just missed the ball and collapsed under the faintest touch to save face. Why is Houghton taking it instead of someone with actual technique like Bronze?? And finally Bright is little more than a thug picked because she's big. Rubbish tackle.

 

[Blue in Munich]

It's like being pregnant, with offside you either are or you aren't. It's cut and dried. I agree it was ridiculously marginal but ultimately she was off so that's that.

Whilst typing, a penalty was given by VAR. It took too long, over to StuC 😁, didn't look a penalty to me and the penalty was rubbish so it ended about right.

If we are going to persist with VAR for offside then the rule needs a re-write; clear daylight between defender & attacker.

 

[Papas1982]

Want to have a little wager it rules out more goals than it allows next season? £50 to charity of choice?

Not a chance as I know It will obviously rule out more. Based solely in the fact that in its current guise it will be used too much and therefor lots of clear offsides will be back by it. But they aren’t actually goals if the were scored form offside anyways were they?

But it gets every decision right. As a supported of a small club, like yourself. It may actually help out teams as big teams will have one thing less going in their favour.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Want to have a little wager it rules out more goals than it allows next season? £50 to charity of choice?

If it rules them out correctly then is that not right? What's wrong with having the correct decision?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If we are going to persist with VAR for offside then the rule needs a re-write; clear daylight between defender & attacker.

I would happily agree with that 👍

 

[Blue in Munich]

I only put this on after 55 minutes and it's been an unmitigated disaster since. Our goal being ruled out is nonsense, VAR is supposed to only rule out 'clear and obvious errors'. No linesman would ever see that one of her toes was offside, for all intents and purposes they are level, so it should have stood. The penalty was a shocker as well, she just missed the ball and collapsed under the faintest touch to save face. Why is Houghton taking it instead of someone with actual technique like Bronze?? And finally Bright is little more than a thug picked because she's big. Rubbish tackle.

Utter cobblers; it was the equivalent of a perfectly executed tap tackle in rugby.

 

[Fade and Die]

I totally get your point, but it is also a system that has so much potential to remove the influence that the diving wingers have on the game these days and for that reason alone I'm prepared to give it a run and see if we can't sort out the issues that you point out (spontaneous joy excluded, obviously).

P.S. It so was a penalty.

It will cut out the whingers but probably increase players kicking the ball at players arms next season! 🙄

I think it will ruin the game as a live spectacle.

 

[Papas1982]

If we are going to persist with VAR for offside then the rule needs a re-write; clear daylight between defender & attacker.

I’m not sure defenders would play for offside if that were the rule.

There could be times when ther would need to be best part of a couple of years from a defenders front foot and a striker heading in the opposite directions foot. If they get it slightly wrong and the striker is onside they can’t catch that up.

 

[Papas1982]

It will cut out the whingers but probably increase players kicking the ball at players arms next season! 🙄

I think it will ruin the game as a live spectacle.

I agree that the handball rule is gonna a nightmare!

Considering a request bet opening weekend of season for 10 plus pens.

 

[Blue in Munich]

It will cut out the whingers but probably increase players kicking the ball at players arms next season! 🙄

I think it will ruin the game as a live spectacle.

Sadly I'm coming round to the way of thinking that you will be right, but is it any more ruined than those with the Teflon soled boots are currently making it?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well that was the first game I have sort of watched and I hope the others have been better to watch - that wasn’t great , basic football skills were pretty poor , slow , passing was shocking. Fair play to the England ladies to get to the semi final but that isn’t going to get the country leaping into Women’s Football

As for VAR - going to ruin the way the game imo

 

[Orikoru]

That penalty was awful. Why would you put it low?? Common sense says with the keepers being shorter in women's football they should aim it high every single time as you have much more chance of scoring. Idiotic.

 

[Dasit]

VAR is awful for football.

Can't celebrate any goal anymore. It get scored, you have to wait, then if it given just a relief it counts.

You lose the elation of scoring, a goal going in feels more like getting a pen now, a chance it might be a goal that counts.

 

[Orikoru]

Hahaha Phil Neville just said "we went down to ten men.." Clown.

 

[Kellfire]

Well that was the first game I have sort of watched and I hope the others have been better to watch - that wasn’t great , basic football skills were pretty poor , slow , passing was shocking. Fair play to the England ladies to get to the semi final but that isn’t going to get the country leaping into Women’s Football

As for VAR - going to ruin the way the game imo

That was standard women’s football. I’ve read so much about how good it is and that it must be sexist to say otherwise but the truth is that it’s very slow, they lack skills that’s teenage boys have and that’s proven by the way women’s teams get routinely beaten by any male teams they play.

 

[Fade and Die]

Not a chance as I know It will obviously rule out more. Based solely in the fact that in its current guise it will be used too much and therefor lots of clear offsides will be back by it. But they aren’t actually goals if the were scored form offside anyways were they?

But it gets every decision right. As a supported of a small club, like yourself. It may actually help out teams as big teams will have one thing less going in their favour.

I agree with this 100%, it will be the Man Us and the Liverpool’s who will suffer most as they have been getting the big decisions for years but as someone who has been going for over 40 years I think something fundamental is going to change, and not for the better, I like the way it is now, even the injustices and the moaning down the pub after are all part of “the game”
Football is changing and I’m probably a bit of a dinosaur, when I’m extinct the next gen will have known no difference, the tv audience will be happy and the show will roll on.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

When a professional footballer takes a penalty they aren't brave ffs, it's their job.

I hope young girls have been inspired and take up the game, they have people to aspire to be now. For me, no thanks, I've not been converted.

 

[Papas1982]

I agree with this 100%, it will be the Man Us and the Liverpool’s who will suffer most as they have been getting the big decisions for years but as someone who has been going for over 40 years I think something fundamental is going to change, and not for the better, I like the way it is now, even the injustices and the moaning down the pub after are all part of “the game”
Football is changing and I’m probably a bit of a dinosaur, when I’m extinct the next gen will have known no difference, the tv audience will be happy and the show will roll on.

I think in a few years the offside decisions could be answered as quickly as the goal line. If that’s the case then I don’t think it would be too bad.

But I do agree with the worries that it’ll be too heavily relied upon.

 

[Papas1982]

When a professional footballer takes a penalty they aren't brave ffs, it's their job.

I hope young girls have been inspired and take up the game, they have people to aspire to be now. For me, no thanks, I've not been converted.

100%.
It always amazes me how often creative payers shirk the responsibility too.