Women's World Cup

Crazyface said:
I haven't watched much of this at all, but if you're saying we're behind the USA "physically" that is nothing short of disgraceful. We have a fully professional womens league and therefore we should be at least physically able to match ANY other womens team. If we cannot then the team that is responsible for this side of things should be sack with immediate effect. Tactically we will be behind as PN is NOT a fully fledged manager.
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Sorry CF, but we aren't as physically up with the US team. Yes, they are professionals, but just as Liverpool or City mens teams are professionals, can every other professional footy team keep up with them?
The US team have majored on strongest and fastest, and for now they have the edge but in time the rest of Europe and us will equal them for the physicality but exceed them in skill levels. Then you will see a different name on the cup.
 
Crazyface said:
I haven't watched much of this at all, but if you're saying we're behind the USA "physically" that is nothing short of disgraceful. We have a fully professional womens league and therefore we should be at least physically able to match ANY other womens team. If we cannot then the team that is responsible for this side of things should be sack with immediate effect. Tactically we will be behind as PN is NOT a fully fledged manager.
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Sorry but why should we? Haven’t the Americans been building women’s football (soccer for them ofc) a lot longer and it’s bigger over there.. so they have access to bigger and better facilities.

Over here is the reverse with the men’s. For years we had better and stronger leagues than theirs so our national team was more physical and better. Still don’t see many really stand out Americans but the league over there is growing.

Just because we have a league doesn’t mean it’s anywhere near the standard of theirs.

Professional or not it’s not disgraceful that their not as physical as the yanks
 
Wolf said:
I agree that's why when asked I said it was perhaps the situation.

I don't rate the men's team tbh, been a long time since I've enjoyed watching England men's team play football. I don't bother watching the friendlies or qualifying games anymore as we often seem uninventive and lacking in quality. We did well last year but that was more through getting a good side of the draw and once we played a decent team got outclassed and lost.

The women's team on the other hand for most of this tournament have played some good football up until tonight. It was not a great game for either side but the US showed their class when it was needed but that comes with experience of big tournament games which they have.

Overall this has served as a good platform for the ladies team has got them more coverage which is only a good thing and helps girls like my daughter build there interest, it doesn't matter what any of us men think of it I don't compare it to the men's game just like I don't the ladies golf. This game and others will grow the more girls get involved and the more exposure the better.

So far this year I've a 12 year daughter start football thanks to increased coverage of the game on TV, a 5 year old daughter with a real passion and eye for golf thanks to seeing the mixed events on TV showing her girls and boys can play together. My 7 year old has taken to gymnastics like a duck to water thanks to seeing coverage on TV. My boys already did sports but now the girls are seeing more it's a real positive so long may it Continue on all sports. Tell you what though having 6 kids doing different sports is starting to feel expensive 😂
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I Think the England team are not getting the credit they deserve. It certainly wasn't a thrashing by the USA. The result could have gone England's way if the VAR decision allowed the goal. I don't agree with it in any way and think eventually will spoil the game as we know it. I do however agree with goal line technology.
The Women's game cannot be compared to the men's, its never going to be as athletic. But makes up for it with their skill levels, which to be fair were pretty impressive--for Women's football.
The goalkeepers have been really good and will get even better over time.
As for growing the game from TV viewing etc I don't think will make too much difference to the girls that are good enough and really want to play.
My Son in Law runs an under 13 girls team, and this is their 3rd year. Last winter on Monday evenings between 12 - 20 girls would turn up for training and of course not all of them would get a game on a Sunday. And that 's before any World Cup was shown on TV!
No, for me the Women's game will go from strength to strength.
As for the final, I think Holland will beat USA.
 
Crazyface said:
I haven't watched much of this at all, but if you're saying we're behind the USA "physically" that is nothing short of disgraceful. We have a fully professional womens league and therefore we should be at least physically able to match ANY other womens team. If we cannot then the team that is responsible for this side of things should be sack with immediate effect. Tactically we will be behind as PN is NOT a fully fledged manager.
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🤦‍♂️ Blimey - maybe actually do a touch of research, yes the Ladies Prem is professional but it is miles behind the US , they have been established for years

As for Neville being a “fully fledged” manager ?! What the hell is that supposed to mean ? He has a wealth of experience as a player and then a short time as a coach in Spain and also with the U20s I think
Orikoru said:
I really don't know how P-Nev got the job, other than he's a well known face and they wanted to raise the profile of women's football a bit. That is the only reason I can think of. He has absolutely no credentials as a manager, and as a bloke he's just a bit of a drip.
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Phil Neville got the job because he is a fully qualified coach with a wealth of experience in the game and had done very well with the Ladies winning one established tournament and getting to the semis in the World Cup. He is certainly respect within the Women’s game and will continue to do well. He has spoke well in interviews as well.

Blimey some utter rubbish being spouted these days
 
Liverpoolphil said:
🤦‍♂️ Blimey - maybe actually do a touch of research, yes the Ladies Prem is professional but it is miles behind the US , they have been established for years

As for Neville being a “fully fledged” manager ?! What the hell is that supposed to mean ? He has a wealth of experience as a player and then a short time as a coach in Spain and also with the U20s I think


Phil Neville got the job because he is a fully qualified coach with a wealth of experience in the game and had done very well with the Ladies winning one established tournament and getting to the semis in the World Cup. He is certainly respect within the Women’s game and will continue to do well. He has spoke well in interviews as well.

Blimey some utter rubbish being spouted these days
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So your answer for how he got the job is that he's done very well since getting the job? How does that work? Is he a time traveller?

His coaching career includes assisting Moyes at Man Utd (total disaster), coaching at Valencia (total disaster), and being a terrible pundit on the BBC. Hardly great credentials for a potential manager.

Getting us to the semis is decent, but Mark Sampson did that as well at the previous world cup so hardly unprecedented. The truth is we have a decent team for women's football so expectations can be slightly higher than for the men's team.
 
Orikoru said:
So your answer for how he got the job is that he's done very well since getting the job? How does that work? Is he a time traveller?

His coaching career includes assisting Moyes at Man Utd (total disaster), coaching at Valencia (total disaster), and being a terrible pundit on the BBC. Hardly great credentials for a potential manager.

Getting us to the semis is decent, but Mark Sampson did that as well at the previous world cup so hardly unprecedented. The truth is we have a decent team for women's football so expectations can be slightly higher than for the men's team.
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Neville started coaching in 2012 with the England under 21s , and carried on coaching for 6 years. I’m not sure how his “coaching” can be classed as “total disaster” ? Unless you can point to his coaching as opposed to the choices made by the manager. Believe Everton interviewed him for the managers role at one stage as well.
Do you really think he only got the job because of who he is ?

He has proven to be a successful choice has he not ?

He didn’t just leap into the job with zero experience did he ?

Seems a bit foolish to be questioning an appointment 18 months after it was made and in that period they have won one tournament and got to the semi of another
 
Orikoru said:
Err yeah, sorry I thought I said that already. :unsure:

He had zero management experience. Managing and coaching are not the same. He's done fine I suppose.
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Plenty of people have gone into management without experience at top level management or indeed any management and done well - and would say Neville working as a coach under a number of managers gave him experience as well as playing for one of the best ever. And managing an International team is slightly different - some players have jumped straight into it without any coaching experience at all

Neville got the job because he was interviewed and they decided he was the best choice for the job - irrelevant of “who” he was - quite disrespectful to suggest otherwise
 
I have no opinion on how he has done in the job but he does carry himself off very well when interviewed and it seems, to my uneducated eye, the players really play for him and listen to him so he clearly has their respect.
 
I can't recall, but when it came to getting the job. Who were his rivals?

At the end of the day, he will have more experience than anyone who was prevoulsy only ever involved in the women's game, during his coaching he will aslo have had access to better resources than anyone outside a PL club. Quite strong arguments to give him a chance imo. Re him only have coached before, at intl being a good coach is the most important thing. Most other aspects that you'd maybe expect a manger to sort at club level will be done by the fa. It isn't like he needs to identify transfer targets is it?
 
I never liked donkey2, let alone donkey1, but I give him his due he seems to have done a good job with the England ladies even if I didnt agree with him bigging up the US team in his interviews before the match.
 
In the US female football participation at college is now at a higher level than mens participation. The game is massive over there and the national side are reaping the benefits of having the best and longest established set up and superb grass root development. We will get closer to them but it will take another decade or so.

As for Neville, he seemed thrust into the role after Sampson left under a cloud. He has hardly had extensive managerial experience and has usually acted as a coach under others https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Neville#Management_career

I think he has done a reasonable job and matched Sampson's feat of a semi-final appearance and to be honest had we had the Dutch or Sweden in the semi I think based on what I saw we'd have beaten either
 
What is the commentator talking about. If a ball hits you at that speed of course you feel it.

Really hoping White doesn't score. If she is level top scorer after tomorrow that's great, but imo goals scored in a pointless game shouldn't count.
 
Papas1982 said:
#PhilNevilleOut
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Papas1982 said:
What is the commentator talking about. If a ball hits you at that speed of course you feel it.
Really hoping White doesn't score. If she is level top scorer after tomorrow that's great, but imo goals scored in a pointless game shouldn't count.
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You're obviously not enjoying this one little bit.
Switch over, more channels are available!
 
You'd formed three opinions after little over half an hour.
Neville has to go, White shouldn't score and the game is pointless!
Switch over at that point to save yourself more pain.
 
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