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Will you have the Covid Vaccine

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Backache said:
Are you sure it's the same Prof John Campbell? There is a Professor of the same name who is hte director of the Scottish Blood transfusion service.

I have seen a couple of his You Tube videos and whereas I would certainly agree that he is an honest and effective communicator with no obvious bias I do think he sometimes gets the science wrong, which is understandable no one can be up to date and knowledgeable about all fields which the pandemic covers, but he is certainly not an 'expert' in all the topics he covers.
His background is I believe A&E and education.
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Ah right, that's good to know. As I say my immunology is not a strong point so am happy to be educated.
 
Ethan said:
That is a different John Campbell. The youtube guy is a retired nurse, not a medical doctor. The Hon Prof is a scientist at the Blood Transfusion Service in Scotland.

Edit: Beaten to it by backache.

So can you expand on your theory on 'white coating' as it applies to Covid?
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It would stray into the political I'm afraid but essentially organisations and people platforming scientists like Michael Yeadon et al to muddy the waters sufficiently so as to apply enough pressure on policy makers to loosen restrictions rather than tighten them.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Reply to an anti vaxxer on Wings.

'You obviously feel very strongly about it but do you know anyone who could perhaps present your thoughts in a coherent way'

Ouch....better quality of insults in Scotland.:love:
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Just don't ask a certain Ms Carone...:LOL: (if you know you'll know why - if you don't, then don't look if you don't want a glimpse into a rather bizarre non-UK political exchange)
 
ScienceBoy said:
If asked right now it would be no. My first question would then be has everyone that needs it had it first, NHS and care homes? Those at risk and the elderly? The young who can have it and those who care for anyone one of the above.

I would happily give up getting it until the last moment to ensure anyone else who needs it more has it first.

I will isolate, wear masks, not see friends and relatives if needed to before those criteria are met.
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Why would you be offered the vacine before the risk groups? You will never be in a position to ask if all the other groups have had it first.
The government said "don't contact us, we will contact you"
 
One point for me is that by the times it gets to my groups turn they will probably have had another 4 months and millions of other guinea pigs to watch for side effects.
 
funkycoldmedina said:
It would stray into the political I'm afraid but essentially organisations and people platforming scientists like Michael Yeadon et al to muddy the waters sufficiently so as to apply enough pressure on policy makers to loosen restrictions rather than tighten them.
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Yeadon et al are perfectly entitled to give their view but people are also perfectly free to respond by demanding they produce evidence for their assertions or be rightly criticised along with most of the rest of the FaceBook crew.
 
Ethan said:
Yeadon et al are perfectly entitled to give their view but people are also perfectly free to respond by demanding they produce evidence for their assertions or be rightly criticised along with most of the rest of the FaceBook crew.
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As were they scientists in the tobacco and climate change debate. What's more pernicious is how they are used and promoted by others.
 
backwoodsman said:
Vax. Would I? Of course - why wouldnt I? Group 7 for me, group 5 for HID.

Anti-vaxers? If I've had the vax (and so have those who I care about) then I don't especially care what you do. If you choose to leave it for those that want it, then fine.
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The anti-vaxxers will still bung up the NHS as karma visits them, causing disruption for other people with non-Cvid conditions.
 
I saw someone on Facebook ranting about not getting a vaccine due to safety reasons. I pointed out she doesn't wear a mask, ignored lockdown, eats absolute garbage, sniffs coke laced with rat poison and gets a mobile lash lady to pump her face full of cheap filler, so can't be that bothered about safety. She countered with she was worried the government might want to track her :ROFLMAO:
 
Ethan said:
Precisely. Means well, and we can agree with common sense advice, but he is not an expert in this area.
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Agreed that he is a retired nurse (and his doctorate is in education), so not a bona-fide "expert".
But he does seem to find out about interesting genuine scientific research which has not been otherwise disseminated to the general public by the media.
Does the fact he's not an expert make this research less credible? He's just the messenger, and he's pointing out stuff we ought to hear about.

Sunetra Gupta and Chris Whitty are real experts in this field, but I somehow trust them less. They both give me the impression that they will ignore/hide any data that doesn't fit their agenda.
 
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