WHS & ISV Issues (Please post only if you are a handicap secretary or involved in admin at your club)

[mikejohnchapman]

Question for the Club V1 users

Has anyone entered a casual round as a stableford round? When i tried as soon as I put a zero in it converted the round to strokeplay and made it NR.

Under the old version you were allowed to put in 0 for a blob and it calculated fine.

 

[jim8flog]

Question for the Club V1 users

Has anyone entered a casual round as a stableford round? When i tried as soon as I put a zero in it converted the round to strokeplay and made it NR.

Under the old version you were allowed to put in 0 for a blob and it calculated fine.

What is interesting is this

GB (2) (Appendix B) 5.

Score Type Designations
The codes used in GB&I in the full version of the Handicap Record to identify the score type and format of play are:
Type: C – Competition, G – General Play, N – 9-hole score
Format: S – Stroke play, M – Match play
Location: H – Home, A – Away
Other Score type: I- Incomplete round, E – Exceptional score, P – Penalty Score, A – Handicap Adjustment

No mention of stableford

in this circumstance are we now going to ask players to put a score on the card equal to nett double bogey

When a player starts a hole but does not hole out for a valid reason, subject to
other provisions set out within the Rules of Handicapping, the player must record
their score as appropriate for the situation and depending on the format of play,
for example, net double bogey or zero Stableford points.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

What is interesting is this

GB (2) (Appendix B) 5.

Score Type Designations
The codes used in GB&I in the full version of the Handicap Record to identify the score type and format of play are:
Type: C – Competition, G – General Play, N – 9-hole score
Format: S – Stroke play, M – Match play
Location: H – Home, A – Away
Other Score type: I- Incomplete round, E – Exceptional score, P – Penalty Score, A – Handicap Adjustment

No mention of stableford

in this circumstance are we now going to ask players to put a score on the card equal to nett double bogey

When a player starts a hole but does not hole out for a valid reason, subject to
other provisions set out within the Rules of Handicapping, the player must record
their score as appropriate for the situation and depending on the format of play,
for example, net double bogey or zero Stableford points.

Stableford is designated as singes isn't it?

But you are right - when I entered scores the V1 system changed all stableford rounds to strokeplay and wouldn't work until I entered NDB for each blob.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Has anyone processed a full comp on V1 and had it update the EG Platform and handicaps yet?

 

[Old Skier]

Stableford is designated as singes isn't it?

But you are right - when I entered scores the V1 system changed all stableford rounds to strokeplay and wouldn't work until I entered NDB for each blob.

We had a non qualifier yesterday and was able to put a 0 in for a blob, obviously it doesn’t go to the platform (I don’t think, not checked) so it might be different in a Q

 

[apj0524]

What is interesting is this

in this circumstance are we now going to ask players to put a score on the card equal to nett double bogey

When a player starts a hole but does not hole out for a valid reason, subject to
other provisions set out within the Rules of Handicapping, the player must record
their score as appropriate for the situation and depending on the format of play,
for example, net double bogey or zero Stableford points.

NBG of Playing Handicap or HI, or both?

 

[Swango1980]

Has anyone processed a full comp on V1 and had it update the EG Platform and handicaps yet?

I notice our Seniors section played a competition yesterday, and they went to WHS. What worries me is it was advertised as being off white tees. But I notice the system thinks they were off yellows. As a result, the scores are very poor, PCC is shown as +3, and another golfer put in a decent Casual Round, and got a massive cut including a -1 ESR. Investigating

 

[Swango1980]

It looks like they have fixed the problem where an Error was reported when trying to enter a score higher than nett double bogey

 

[nickjdavis]

I added a member who had a CDH Number and he hasn’t been added to the dashboard. The whole thing is now becoming unworkable and taking up hours of time from the user end with no support from those that was supposed to implement the system.

I have that issue as well!!!

New members without a CDH number dont get allocated a CDH (or whatever they've decided to call it) number.

New members who arrive with a CDH number, when added in to our player database don't get added to the WHS dashboard.

 

[nickjdavis]

I played a round today and have entered it via our ISV software....hit the £send scores to WHS platform" button and it was there in my WHS/England Golf record in an instant.

and this morning I now have a shiny new recalculated index.....so at least that part of the system works!!!!

 

[jim8flog]

NBG of Playing Handicap or HI, or both?

All handicap adjustments are made against a players Course Handicap so it would be that.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

I notice our Seniors section played a competition yesterday, and they went to WHS. What worries me is it was advertised as being off white tees. But I notice the system thinks they were off yellows. As a result, the scores are very poor, PCC is shown as +3, and another golfer put in a decent Casual Round, and got a massive cut including a -1 ESR. Investigating

This is getting wierd.

I put in a number of casual rounds from Monday on Wednesday this week as the system wasn't working on Monday.

Having been forced to put them in a strokeplay (Club v1 issue) they now show on the EG platform with a PCA of 2.

Didn't think there were enough rounds to trigger this and also thought if you were past midnight they were excluded from the PCA.

Posting date was 4/11 but round date 2/11 on EG platform.

 

[rosecott]

Firstly apologies, I don't fit the brief for posting here, but think this is the best place.
Are any of you aware of masterscoreboard not going to be adjusted to cope with WHS?
Apparently a member is claiming a nearby club is moving off due to this reason.
Thanks

Just an update for this poster.

Using Handicapmaster, I have successfully processed a men's QR, a ladies QR and 2 General rounds. Player Score Input via Masterscoreboard is working perfectly and all scores appear on the WHS platform with any appropriate HI adjustments. Please pass this on to your friend.

 

[rulefan]

We have just found what appears to have been a problem the interface between V1 and the CDH in 2018.
It seems that scores from a number of players are not recorded in the CH but V1 claim that their audit trail shows they were correctly sent to the CDH.
Many of these scores would have been in the player's best 8.

 

[rulefan]

Has anyone tried a "general play" adjustment (eg injury/illness) since 2 Nov? Has it affected records retrospectively?

 

[rosecott]

Has anyone tried a "general play" adjustment (eg injury/illness) since 2 Nov? Has it affected records retrospectively?

We have delayed our Handicap Committee meeting until 15th November to let things settle down before we do anything like that.

 

[Old Skier]

What we need on this particular thread is @rulefan to get his insider to try and get someone on the WHS team to monitor and post on this thread. To many questions with no answer forthcoming from EG.

 

[rulefan]

What we need on this particular thread is @rulefan to get his insider to try and get someone on the WHS team to monitor and post on this thread. To many questions with no answer forthcoming from EG.

I agree. The problem is that they are so inundated that I can't get them to respond to me

 

[Old Skier]

Club Systems not responding on chat

 

[Old Skier]

I agree. The problem is that they are so inundated that I can't get them to respond to me

Advantage would be to them they sort a bigger number in one go, shame