I'm not sure how many times this has been said already, but gross score is utterly irrelevant in a handicap competition.Its not a great score though, just a great score in relation to a very high handicap.
I totally get a low guy being annoyed by someone winning when their gross score is 20 shots better, not saying its wrong either - just think being annoyed is allowed.
They can be congratulated, they played well for them. But, that does not automatically mean they deserve the win, well to some anyway. I guess it depends on what every individual believes is "fair", as that is subjective.
Nothing wrong with that at all. System looks fair there. Beaten by two shot, nice effort.
Using one example as a proof. Like it. What would the result have had to have been for you to say it doesn't work?
Given that the best you can do is “ well in practice it just doesn’t work like that” it might be better to offer some logic to your position.
Have you not read these forums before? I didn't feel I needed to type chapter and verse again, and repeat what many have said before. But, at least I didn't take one isolated example, and use that to completely determine whether the system works or not. I ask again, what would the score have been in that match for you to say the system doesn't work?
Clubs having divisions may be misguided, coming from a prejudice without grounding, or, it may be an attempt to solve a different problem, described by many here of the 50 point win. Many clubs dont have that syndrome though. If 40-42 win the majority in some clubs, which seems the case also, then divisions are a bad fix to a problem than should be resolved at its core.
No. But no handicap should. Or they should be as rare as a hole in one.
The actual score is irrelevant - the intent of handicapping systems is to afford each player an equitable chance of winning, not an equitable chance of returning an exceptional nett/Stableford score. If they did the latter, higher handicappers would have virtually no chance of winning.
So a single figure player who cannot score 50 plus points is tough luck.
No. Its correct that he shouldnt score 50pts. The problem is a poorly implemented WHS in some clubs that allows some to score 50.
There is no blame to be assigned. There is always the potential for such scores from improving higher handicappers, regardless of handicap system.
My last club used to have a max handicap of 18 in Div 1, everyone else in Div 2. This ended up being a bit comical, as you could have 20-30 in Division 1, and 3-5 in Division 2. Therefore, a few years ago, the max handicap limit for Division 1 was variable, and set specifically for each competition, with the aim of having roughly balanced field sizes for each division.
