What or where is ‘the wrong side of the green’!

[Slab]

Please don't take this thread too seriously...

In relation to pace of play and leaving your bag/trolley, where is the wrong side of the green. What scenario do you think of when you hear the phrase?

When I hear it I think of a location that will add to the overall time spent on the green. From entry to exit

I’m trying to think if I’ve ever seen anyone leave their bag/trolley on the wrong side of the green and I just can’t. Who would walk the extra paces to leave their bag in the wrong place!

Or do I have the wrong idea about where the wrong side is?

And just to clarify, the front of a green with a rear or side exit is definitely not the wrong side in respect to pace. There is not one pace less or one second saved whether bag is left at front, rear or side of this green configuration

The only configuration I can think of is a ball position & exit route which are at 90 degree opposites to the players entry point to a green, and I’ve never seen anyone take their bag/trolley for an extra walk to the ball

I can understand if the group adopt mixed bag positions then it might delay the group as a whole but not if same is used by all

 

[garyinderry]

if they path to the next tee was at 11 oclock. someone may pitch on from 5 o clock and leave their bag there while they putt out. as everyone leaves the green they have to walk the furthest to get to the path.

if you have to chip from the 5 o'clock positon. push the trolley on around the green towards the path while others line up their putts.

simples!

 

[Spuddy]

I get what you mean. The 'correct' side would probably be deemed as the side closest to the next tee however what's the difference in making the walk before or after you play. If you do it before then your shot is delayed and if you do it after then the walk is longer but the shot is played sooner.

 

[Spuddy]

if they path to the next tee was at 11 oclock. someone may pitch on from 5 o clock and leave their bag there while they putt out. as everyone leaves the green they have to walk the furthest to get to the path.

if you have to chip from the 5 o'clock positon. push the trolley on around the green towards the path while others line up their putts.

simples!

That doesn't work for me, I'm usually putting first after chipping on...

 

[garyinderry]

That doesn't work for me, I'm usually putting first after chipping on...

lol. take your putt, mark it up then move your bag. :thup:

 

[Slab]

I get what you mean. The 'correct' side would probably be deemed as the side closest to the next tee however what's the difference in making the walk before or after you play. If you do it before then your shot is delayed and if you do it after then the walk is longer but the shot is played sooner.

Exactly this, (you seem to have said in three lines what took me 5 times as many )

 

[Khamelion]

If my ball is not on the green, I generally take my trolley to the side where my ball is, be it near of far from the next tee, play my shot and then take my trolley to the a point closer to the next tee.

If my ball is on the green I will take my trolley to the side closest the next tee.

 

[garyinderry]

Exactly this, (you seem to have said in three lines what took me 5 times as many )

for the players waiting behind, it may seem quicker if the green is cleared quickly once the putting has finished. I get what you are saying though.

 

[Slab]

for the players waiting behind, it may seem quicker if the green is cleared quickly once the putting has finished. I get what you are saying though.

I know, and its that perception by the following group that i think leads to countless references to the 'wrong side' whenever slow play is mentioned and players waiting are working themselves into a lather for nowt

 

[Birchy]

I get what you mean. The 'correct' side would probably be deemed as the side closest to the next tee however what's the difference in making the walk before or after you play. If you do it before then your shot is delayed and if you do it after then the walk is longer but the shot is played sooner.

You chip your ball on then the other players can play their shot while you take your bag around thus not delaying play. If your chip is a bad un and "its still you" (the dreaded words nobody likes) then you can play your next then take your bag across whilst the others carry on. If "its still you" for a third time take up fishing

 

[guest100718]

player put his bag down and chips on from the left side of the green to a pin cut on the right (opposite) and also the same side as the next tee, pulls his putter and goes to putt out, he then has to walk back accross the green to his bag, then back accross again to the tee.
Ergo he's on the wrong side, its pretty easy to understand.

 

[Slab]

player put his bag down and chips on from the left side of the green to a pin cut on the right (opposite) and also the same side as the next tee, pulls his putter and goes to putt out, he then has to walk back accross the green to his bag, then back accross again to the tee.
Ergo he's on the wrong side, its pretty easy to understand.

Yeah that's what I said when I wrote "The only configuration I can think of is a ball position & exit route which are at 90 degree opposites to the players entry point to a green, and I’ve never seen anyone take their bag/trolley for an extra walk to the ball"

So for it to be the wrong side the player would have had to enter the green area from the front and take his bag to the ball, which i dont see happening on the course. If he enters from the left its not the wrong side :smirk:

 

[garyinderry]

if everyone else is doing the correct method then the guy who leaves the bag in the wrong place will be holding things up in the end.


it happens!

 

[Slab]

if everyone else is doing the correct method then the guy who leaves the bag in the wrong place will be holding things up in the end.


it happens!

Yup agree, it's just that in respect to pace of play there is more than one 'correct method' so it means that leaving it next to the exit is simply an attempt to get unity from a group over the chance they'll use multiple locations and not because its any quicker than all leaving it at the front etc

 

[Birchy]

You see some proper weird stuff on this forum at times. This is one of them times :rofl:

 

[London mike 61]

Usually I leave my trolley so that it is near to the exit for the next tee, but when I'm playing a course that I haven't played before ( perhaps a golf society trip ) then things get a little muddled and I leave it towards the back of the green on the basis that the next tee will probably be near to there.

 

[Slab]

You see some proper weird stuff on this forum at times. This is one of them times :rofl:

What you mean you want another aimpoint thread then! :smirk:

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

When you finish putting you should be able to go to your bag which will be at or close to a point at the side of the green the shortest practical distance to the next tee (let me refer to this as the HNBP) .

Your bag is in the 'wrong place' if you finish putting and walk to your bag - but when at your bag you are not at the HNPB and unable to progress to that point without disturbing PPs still putting. You are at the 'right place' if you can stand by or close to your bag and watch your PPs putt out and then immediately set off to walk the 'shortest' distance to the next tee. Simples.

 

[Foxholer]

When you finish putting you should be able to go to your bag which will be at or close to a point at the side of the green the shortest practical distance to the next tee (let me refer to this as the HNBP) .

Your bag is in the 'wrong place' if you finish putting and walk to your bag - but when at your bag you are not at the HNPB and unable to progress to that point without disturbing PPs still putting. You are at the 'right place' if you can stand by or close to your bag and watch your PPs putt out and then immediately set off to walk the 'shortest' distance to the next tee. Simples.

Not necessarily correct!

Your bag is in the wrong place if the overall time involved is longer than it could/should be.

There are many scenarios where supposed wrong places can be right ones and supposed right places can be wrong ones. But some thought of where the most likely 'best' place will be will generally save time. It's most likely that this is somewhere near the route from the hole directly to the next tee.

 

[c1973]

Save time by carrying and keeping your bag on whilst putting.

That way anyone in the group behind getting peed off at you taking 10 seconds extra to go to your bag has nothing to greet about.
This method may be unsuitable for Aimpointers though.