Voting tomorrow, is there any point?

[bobmac]

So, to sum up.....
There are some who want to vote and some who dont want to vote. Those who do want to vote think that those who dont want to vote are wrong about not voting and should indeed vote and those who dont want to vote think that those who want to vote are wrong about those not wanting to vote being wrong and should indeed vote with their feet and not vote against the wishes of those who are voting. (Wooley B. 1980)

 

[chrisd]

So, what about those who have voted and think if no one else votes, their chosen candidate will win!

 

[JustOne]

You should always vote. These people will decide much of your life, so you should exercise your choice/prejudices to select either those you approve of or minimise the harm by selecting the least worst of a bad lot.

I don't agree..... they'll get your vote and think that they are doing well.

If we'd all stopped picking LibDems as an alternate for the past 40yrs they'd have faded away OR reinvented themselves into something worthwhile.


Would be interesting if one day there is an election and only 54 people in the whole country vote whilst 60M sit at home.... perhaps then someone might realise that the system (or parties) need to change.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I don't agree..... they'll get your vote and think that they are doing well.

If we'd all stopped picking LibDems as an alternate for the past 40yrs they'd have faded away OR reinvented themselves into something worthwhile.

Or they may well work hard for their constituency as they know in 5 years time they will need to prove themselves or they may be out. There seems to have been a lot more big swings in this election, which I think is a good thing as it means safe seats will be less safe.

 

[JustOne]

Sweet Jesus.. The point that is being made (and missed in your case), is that if you decide not to vote then you can hardly mouth off in the Pub (or on a forum) about how badly the person elected is doing.

Very, very ignorant. I'm sure you voted which proves my point that the county is ruled by the mob (read as ignorant) minded.

 

[bluewolf]

Very, very ignorant. I'm sure you voted which proves my point that the county is ruled by the mob (read as ignorant) minded.

Cheers mate. You're opinion is noted. You'll forgive me if I think that not only are you wrong in your insinuation, but also naive in your opinion and rude in your application. However, feel free to enlighten us as to your opinion on people who just can't be bothered to engage in the political system.

 

[JustOne]

Cheers mate. You're opinion is noted. You'll forgive me if I think that not only are you wrong in your insinuation, but also naive in your opinion and rude in your application. However, feel free to enlighten us as to your opinion on people who just can't be bothered to engage in the political system.

You belong to a golf club.... the owners want to reduce it to 17 holes, the committee want to reduce it to 16 holes and the green keepers want 15, who do you vote for to keep 18 if it's not an option.... can't you still complain down the pub if you don't vote for either?

 

[bluewolf]

You belong to a golf club.... the owners want to reduce it to 17 holes, the committee want to reduce it to 16 holes and the green keepers want 15, who do you vote for to keep 18 if it's not an option.... can't you still complain down the pub if you don't vote for either?

So, in your scenario, you're just going to sit there and allow it to happen? Get involved if it means that much to you. If it doesn't really mean that much, then feel free to sit idly by whilst other people do the work in your behalf.
BUT, if you were sat in the pub moaning to me, I'd ask what you were doing about it. Once you said you weren't doing anything, then I'd stop listening as you obviously aren't that bothered, or were just too lazy to do anything.

 

[JustOne]

Apply the scenario I wrote to the country's government... then tell me what you think I (we) man on the street should do?

feel free to sit idly by whilst other people do the work in your behalf.

LMAO!! .... my behalf? :rofl:

 

[bluewolf]

Apply the scenario I wrote to the country's government... then tell me what you think I (we) should do?

If there is no one you can vote for, then decide who you least want to get in power and vote tactically to attempt to deny them power.
The other option is to ignore the bigger picture and focus strongly on the local picture. Study the promises of each of your local candidates and then vote for the one that best fits your personal beliefs. If that person deviates from their personal manifesto then you can write to them to ask the question, or approach them. I've contacted my local MP on several occasions and had answers each time.
As an aside, I like my local MP. I suspect that she'll be in the shadow cabinet soon enough.

 

[bluewolf]

LMAO!! .... my behalf? :rofl:

well, if someone shared your opinion and attempted to do something about it, then would they not be doing something on your behalf?

 

[JustOne]

If there is no one you can vote for, then decide who you least want to get in power and vote tactically to attempt to deny them power. .

So you'd vote for the (least liked) ones who'd shorten the course to 15 holes?

No wonder the country has so many 'issues'. As I said before, ignorance, mob minded ignorance.



So glad you've got a foot in the door with your local MP

 

[lobthewedge]

You belong to a golf club.... the owners want to reduce it to 17 holes, the committee want to reduce it to 16 holes and the green keepers want 15, who do you vote for to keep 18 if it's not an option.... can't you still complain down the pub if you don't vote for either?

I think I would acknowledge the fact that change is needed and not in doubt; listen to why all three parties wanted to reduce the amount of holes and make a measured judgement based on their proposals for the clubs future.

 

[bluewolf]

So you'd vote for the (least liked) ones who'd shorten the course to 15 holes?

No wonder the country has so many 'issues'. As I said before, ignorance, mob minded ignorance.

I'm going to ignore the insults as they add nothing.

Your mythical golf club is having a vote to decide its future. You don't agree with any of the 3 options. In which case, do everything you can to add a 4th. Or, sit back and twiddle your thumbs whilst complaining to everyone who will listen. There is a reason that this country is in a poor state. It isn't the fault of the people who vote though.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

So you'd vote for the (least liked) ones who'd shorten the course to 15 holes?

No wonder the country has so many 'issues'. As I said before, ignorance, mob minded ignorance.



So glad you've got a foot in the door with your local MP

Remind me again what you have achieved by not voting or engaging in the system? Or what that has ever achieved?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You belong to a golf club.... the owners want to reduce it to 17 holes, the committee want to reduce it to 16 holes and the green keepers want 15, who do you vote for to keep 18 if it's not an option.... can't you still complain down the pub if you don't vote for either?

Nice fairytale! and in my version, I met a fellow member who wanted it to stay at 18 holes but he didn't think anyone cared, so we got involved, put his name on the ballot paper and saved the day!!! Yippee,
Anyone else like to come up with a ridiculous story to fit their point of view?
😜

 

[FairwayDodger]

15 holes would do wonders to reduce the time it takes to play a round of golf. Sounds like a really progressive policy, plus free mars bars for every player, funded by an extra levy on subs at the rich golf club down the road! Hurrah!

 

[c1973]

15 holes would do wonders to reduce the time it takes to play a round of golf. Sounds like a really progressive policy, plus free mars bars for every player, funded by an extra levy on subs at the rich golf club down the road! Hurrah!

Aye, awrite Sturgeon!

 

[bluewolf]

15 holes would do wonders to reduce the time it takes to play a round of golf. Sounds like a really progressive policy, plus free mars bars for every player, funded by an extra levy on subs at the rich golf club down the road! Hurrah!

You've just solved Golf. Hurrah!!!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You've just solved Golf. Hurrah!!!

That's not fair, I thought I'd saved the day 😜