Vintage Golf

[HomerJSimpson]

Nice irons those Ray Floyds, yours were most likely the 1983 release, as opposed to the Ray Floyd "Power Ridged" which were 1970.

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Oh, and talking of the Ray Floyd "Power Ridged", let me make a shameless plug.

I thought they were slightly earlier than 83 but bow to your specialist knowledge. In hindsight should have stuck to the Maxfli

 

[Voyager EMH]

Now then.
Compare this 1933 Rule book with the 1939 one I got for free with a job-lot of 1.62 balls pictured in post #747



Makes me wonder...

 

[Oddsocks]

Anyone got an age in these, Google is bringing up various info:





Also I keep seeing references to bar keepers friend but Google brings up various types, any help here would be great.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Bar Keepers Friend

Two types

Power Cream.
Powder.

The powder is much more abrasive. Do not use this on chrome finishes.

You can rub the cream fairly hard with a J-cloth. Best to give a simple nail-brush scrub with fairy liquid first.
The Power Cream should be the finishing touch. Read instructions on bottle.

 

[Oddsocks]

Thanks you kindly. Time to use HID’s prime account ?

 

[Oddsocks]

On a separate topic, is there clubs of this era that are deemed more desirable such a Jonny miller California etc. there seems loads of Wilson and Slazenger stuff about , hogan and MacGregor a little harder to come by

 

[Crow]

Ref the Wilson Sam Snead, they were in production for many years in many variations, dating them isn't easy as they're what are called a "store-line" club rather than a "pro-line".

These are American terms and refer to the point of sale; pro-line were reserved purely for sale through professional shops, store-line were sold at general retail outlets.
The pro-line clubs are recorded in manufacturers catalogues with full specs and so are easy to date, store-line clubs generally aren't.

This might make the store-line clubs sound rubbish but while they might be inferior to the pro-line, most of them were still very good clubs.
Here in the UK we never really had that distinction of pro-line and store-line, top end clubs were just more expensive than the lower end.

Looking at your irons I'd guess 70s or 80s.

 

[Oddsocks]

That explains while Google brings up conversations of our American buddies referring to sports store ranges. I wasn’t sure if the pro ranges were linked to players such as Snead, Jonny miller etc as it seems tagging onto iconic name was the rage back then.

 

[Crow]

On a separate topic, is there clubs of this era that are deemed more desirable such a Jonny miller California etc. there seems loads of Wilson and Slazenger stuff about , hogan and MacGregor a little harder to come by

There are clubs that have a much stronger following and these are for the main part the top American pro-line clubs by such as MacGregor, Wilson, Hogan and Spalding.

With regard to your personal collecting, it's always best to buy what you like rather than what the market dictates.
I'm a fan of UK clubs which is useful as they're generally considered to be the poor relation even here in the UK, and to be honest they are when compared to the best offerings from America but there are some excellent models to be found, and I have a soft spot for the "junk end".

Slazenger Johnny Miller California are okay but I wouldn't say they were among the best from UK makers.


The pictures below might give an idea of what I'm referring to.

Pro-line clubs by MacGregor:

1963 MT FC4000, note the flame ceramic faces, lovely ferrules and general sharp finish, these and most American clubs of the time are forged heads.


1966 RMT1, drop-dead gorgeous.



1967 VIP



Pro-line clubs by Wilson:

1965 Dyna-Power



1971 Dyna-Power "Buttonback"




And finally some "cheap-as-chips" UK clubs:

Early 1960s Sparkbrook Cypress Point USA Model



Mid 1980s Slazenger Seve Ballesteros



Early 1970s McGhie Tiger Tee

 

[Oddsocks]

Any confessions ??

 

[Crow]

Any confessions ??

I said I had a soft spot for the junk end, the bottom three are mine.

 

[Crow]

That explains while Google brings up conversations of our American buddies referring to sports store ranges. I wasn’t sure if the pro ranges were linked to players such as Snead, Jonny miller etc as it seems tagging onto iconic name was the rage back then.

Any American club with a name on it is usually store-line, while with UK clubs they were often the better models.

1957 release date Dunlop Peter Thomson



1982 Slazenger Johnny Miller JM63

 

[Oddsocks]

I like them slazzies

 

[Crow]

I like them slazzies

 

[Hobbit]

Got a feeling his next round at….fuzzy old age… down Texas way was also a 63. I was going to say I remember it well but, in truth, I’m not so sure these days. But I do remember he was in a stunning vein of form around then.

He was like watching Greg Norman at his best.

 

[Hobbit]

Anyone got an age in these, Google is bringing up various info:





Also I keep seeing references to bar keepers friend but Google brings up various types, any help here would be great.

They’re early 70’s and could be bought for £8 a club. They were my first matched set, and were bought in ones and twos with my paper round money. I also had the 2&4 wood. I, basically, wore the 2 wood out as it was my ‘driver’ for a good number of years, and was also good off the fairway.

 

[Oddsocks]

Thanks hobbit, was it that model as I have a friend who also has a set of sneads that are a lot smoother so would assume slightly older, they also don’t have the trilby logo.

 

[toyboy54]

The only relevance to 'Vintage' is the combined ages of SWMBO and myself but when we stayed at the MARINE Hotel in Troon a couple of months ago, we actually wound up staying in 'The Johnny Miller suite' (sheer luck actually)-nice big bedroom, separate dressing room, lovely big bathroom and a nice large sitting area plus looked down onto
Royal Troon clubhouse and course- lovely few days + didn't rain

 

[Hobbit]

Thanks hobbit, was it that model as I have a friend who also has a set of sneads that are a lot smoother so would assume slightly older, they also don’t have the trilby logo.

Mmm, you might be right. Mine definitely had the trilby on them but I have a feeling it was smaller and at the end of “Sam Snead.” The shape of the 8, which is what drew me, is definitely the same.

 

[Oddsocks]

These are my mates sneads, as above it looks like the trilby version have “ tech “ added, rather like the tribulators on a ping driver. Bills definitely look more traditional.