Vaping in the Clubhouse

[Jack_bfc]

By the very nature of what they are intended for, they will become extinct, as everyone who uses one is supposedly coming off fags and therefore will stop 'vaping' at some point....

Out of my circle of freinds we are down to one single smoker and no 'vapers'. Thats from a time before the pub/football ban when we all smoked...

 

[TLB]

I don't think e-cigs should be allowed in the clubhouse, smokers are a dying breed.

I'd hate to go into the clubhouse after a game and be greeted with a row of vapors, personally it's in the same category as smoking.

I used to smoke but read this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/014103940X

I urge every smoker who has the slightest inclination to quit to read this book. The man speaks sense and you really are given a whole new perspective on smoking.

Why substitute smoking with smoking, it doesn't make sense, cold turkey!

 

[GB72]

Just to update, there is no policy and nobody has thought to look at this.point. I was thanked for raising it and it is.going before the house committee before a full announcement is made

 

[fundy]

Just to update, there is no policy and nobody has thought to look at this.point. I was thanked for raising it and it is.going before the house committee before a full announcement is made

Any reformed smokers using e-cis on the committee? If not theres a ban a coming

 

[MadAdey]

I'm on them too Greg, have been since November. Never going back to normal cigs now that I can actually smell how horrific they are and that I use to smell like that. I tried a ciggie on New Year's Eve and it nearly made me sick.I personally do not see a problem with using them inside the clubhouse. Sending someone to a smoking area when they are trying to quit is not really of much help to them as it is not helping them break the habit, after all most of us smoke through habit and associating smoking with certain things like eating or drinking, or like me walking up to the first tee. Like has been mentioned about setting the correct example to younger members, if that is the case then ban drinking too.Good luck to all that have quit like me what ever way you are doing it.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Must admit, I do find it strange to spot someone "vaping" in a pub; always do a double take.

I'd probably prefer people didn't do it in a public place but if there aren't any health risks and the same etiquette most smokers applied about not doing so around people who were eating I guess I'd come round.

I just worry that, unregulated, these become more than just a means to quit smoking but that some will actually start using these in their own right or, worse, maybe even progress to smoking..... That certainly seems to be where the marketing is heading.

 

[Alex1975]

Must admit, I do find it strange to spot someone "vaping" in a pub; always do a double take.

I'd probably prefer people didn't do it in a public place but if there aren't any health risks and the same etiquette most smokers applied about not doing so around people who were eating I guess I'd come round.

I just worry that, unregulated, these become more than just a means to quit smoking but that some will actually start using these in their own right or, worse, maybe even progress to smoking..... That certainly seems to be where the marketing is heading.

I agree and have already seen advertising to this end.

 

[mcbroon]

I was in the bar at the theatre last month and a guy came and stood beside me. I didn't take any notice until this cloud of smoke drifted across my face. My first thoughts was "Eh?!" and then I realised what he was doing.

I have to say that my gut reaction was that it shouldn't be allowed. I get the counterpoint about sending vapers outside to stand with smokers but the blunt solution to that is 'don't do either'.

Easy to say when you're not trying to quit but as everyone knows, ex-smokers are the most militant

 

[CMAC]

I don't think e-cigs should be allowed in the clubhouse, smokers are a dying breed.

I'd hate to go into the clubhouse after a game and be greeted with a row of vapors, personally it's in the same category as smoking.

I used to smoke but read this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/014103940X

I urge every smoker who has the slightest inclination to quit to read this book. The man speaks sense and you really are given a whole new perspective on smoking.

Why substitute smoking with smoking, it doesn't make sense, cold turkey!

..is exactly how I did it. You have to be very week willed once stopped to get up, put your coat on, go out and pay money for a lighter and cigarettes and light up. You either stop or you don't.

It did take me a few attempts over a few years as I didn't want to stop- I really enjoyed a smoke with a beer on a hot day after work or the course. But once you stop that's it, stop, it really isnt difficult if you want to do it

 

[Mattyboy]

How can people questioning whether it is right for something that hasnt been properly tested (or regulated) being allowed be a bit daft? If they have been fully tested, the chemicals are regulated etc and proven to be no issue then fine, until then its hardly "a bit daft" imo. If you want to use them untested thats up to you but to expect them not to be treated the same as ciggies a bit optimistic for me

The thing I find daft is premises banning them and citing a bad influence on children - drinking is as bad, so is the walk through the smokers on arrival. By all means, its your club and they can be banned, but do it for the right reasons or not at all.

BTW - why haven't they been tested? They have been around for a while now.

 

[fundy]

The thing I find daft is premises banning them and citing a bad influence on children - drinking is as bad, so is the walk through the smokers on arrival. By all means, its your club and they can be banned, but do it for the right reasons or not at all.

BTW - why haven't they been tested? They have been around for a while now.

Couldnt agree more, the bad influence argument is weak imo.

As for the testing, nothing ever happens quickly these days lol, they'll get round to it eventually (and then try and work out how they tax it!)

 

[gryffindor]

I switched to vaping six months ago this weekend and have never once wanted a cigarette since. I tried every other method (including a one-to-one with Alan Carr) but simply never managed to quit so they get the thumbs up from me.

That said, it feels odd to vape in public. However, because they do not smell and leave no trace you simply have to be out of sight. Anyone noticed how many people nip off to the loo on a flight - possibly for a sneaky vape. If I am somewhere they are banned, I don't go outside with the smokers - I just tuck myself round the corner somewhere out of sight for a minute or so.

I would therefore say ban them in the clubhouse, but expect people to obey the spirit, if not the letter of the ban.

 

[Snelly]

Well at least I know what vaping means now!

I rarely see people with them but when I do, I think they look very odd and probably should be viewed in the same way as cigarettes.

 

[GB72]

Good points here and even as a user of an ecig I am on the fence a bit and can see both sides. As for why I use one, the simple fact is that I loved smoking, enjoyed every minute of it from the first one with a coffee in the morning to that drunken one in the back garden at 3 in the morning after a big night out. Forget the nicotine addiction, I smoked because I liked smoking. I tried drugs, gum and even cold turkey and failed to quit. The ecig may be a crutch but for the moment it is a half way point easing me off a bad habit that I enjoyed. That has to be better than smoking. Sorry that I do not have the willpower just to stop but that is how I am. I suspect I will have the temptation for the rest of my life but at least I am trying.

 

[swanny32]

I've been vaping for 2 years now and love it, so many different flavours available and undeniably better for you (and cheaper) than 20 marlboro a day! I cleared it first with our owner that it was ok to use in the clubhouse and he doesn't have a problem with it at all. I'm kind of known as the vaper at the club now so everyone comes to me with their questions, and everyone is just used to it now.

 

[TLB]

..is exactly how I did it. You have to be very week willed once stopped to get up, put your coat on, go out and pay money for a lighter and cigarettes and light up. You either stop or you don't.

It did take me a few attempts over a few years as I didn't want to stop- I really enjoyed a smoke with a beer on a hot day after work or the course. But once you stop that's it, stop, it really isnt difficult if you want to do it

Exactly. My vice was after a meal or out at the pub, but I really wanted to quit so I did. Simple. I did however have very vivid dreams about smoking, even to the point where I would wake up in a daze disappointed with myself that I'd had a cigarette!

 

[nemicu]

I always look at it like this - if it's a substitute for a cigarette, then go outside and have it like the rest of the other smokers. It seems to me that e-cig users want to have their cake and eat it. Sure, I bet it's harmless enough, but if your craving for nicotine is that high up on your agenda then you'll have to take the rough with the smooth. Smoking, simulated or otherwise inside buildings shared by non-smokers is wrong. It always seems to me that smokers (or e-smokers) always want to legitimise their actions because they simply don't have the will power to admit they have a problem. But in order to give up smoking, you have to WANT to give up smoking. Nicotine replacement is the worst way of achieving this. It's like any other addiction, but why give yourself more of the drug you're trying to wean yourself off?

 

[6inchcup]

they are banned at my club since before new year,i had to go for my heart check up last week and the nurse had to tell 3 people in the waiting room to stop using them

 

[fundy]

Good points here and even as a user of an ecig I am on the fence a bit and can see both sides. As for why I use one, the simple fact is that I loved smoking, enjoyed every minute of it from the first one with a coffee in the morning to that drunken one in the back garden at 3 in the morning after a big night out. Forget the nicotine addiction, I smoked because I liked smoking. I tried drugs, gum and even cold turkey and failed to quit. The ecig may be a crutch but for the moment it is a half way point easing me off a bad habit that I enjoyed. That has to be better than smoking. Sorry that I do not have the willpower just to stop but that is how I am. I suspect I will have the temptation for the rest of my life but at least I am trying.

Dont be so sure Greg, I used to be pretty much as described in your statement. And then having been like that for many a year I woke up one day and realised I didnt actually want to smoke anymore. As soon as that "want" went giving up became a lot simpler

 

[gryffindor]

To make a very odd analogy - I loathe the smell of coffee and cooked eggs - no idea why, they just make me churn. Caffeine is an addiction but it is currently legal so I have to put up with the stench in a lot of places from the clubhouse to my local petrol station (it is banned in the office ). No one has ever proved that the aroma from coffee is safe (no one has proved it is unsafe either!)- but since it is legal I have to put up with it. Is vaping any different?