Vaping in the Clubhouse

[DanFST]

hmmm smoking is banned so I'll do something that looks exactly the same, even though it isn't, and I don't expect anyone to mind at all.

Well putting a straw in your drink and sucking through it is pretty similar? Should we ban that by association aswell? lets, just stop anyone putting anything in there mouth and then sucking shall we. (that's definitely frowned upon in my clubhouse :rofl

 

[CMAC]

The thing is that cigarettes were banned on health grounds and not appearance. Most clubs allowed smoking until the compulsory ban. By your argument I would not be able to drink coke and drive as it looks the same as drinking beer.

Well putting a straw in your drink and sucking through it is pretty similar? Should we ban that by association aswell? lets, just stop anyone putting anything in there mouth and then sucking shall we. (that's definitely frowned upon in my clubhouse :rofl

it's not an argument guys, just some fun!

You both quote something 'similar' your not getting it, vaping looks the exact same as smoking :cheers:

 

[GB72]

it's not an argument guys, just some fun!

You both quote something 'similar' your not getting it, vaping looks the exact same as smoking :cheers:

I was more impressed that your club had found that there was need to specifically ban rampant sex in the clubhouse

 

[CMAC]

I was more impressed that your club had found that there was need to specifically ban rampant sex in the clubhouse

to be fair .....and honest :smirk: they only banned 1 person and it was just sex not rampant sex...........so by the letter of the law there is wiggle room :rofl:

 

[sawtooth]

E-cigs are banned in a lot of places due to ignorance. Most people assume they are not entirely without risk and I cant blame them because they are still unregulated products. Others simply dont want the hassle from the "non-smokers".

Regulation and clinical trials are coming (which is the main reason my mate closed his e-cig enterprise down) and when that happens the e-cig bans will most likely be lifted. I think that large cigarette companies will also jump on the bandwagon else they will probably go to the wall.

 

[DanFST]

it's not an argument guys, just some fun!

You both quote something 'similar' your not getting it, vaping looks the exact same as smoking :cheers:

No arguments here, apologies if it came across that way. :thup:

Everyone will have there opinion. But there is nothing physically harmful at the moment to using an E-cig (as far as we know). Us smokers get a bum deal alot of the time. This is finally a proper solution to helping people quit/ cut down. And it's being taken away by people just because they are scared of it!

 

[CMAC]

The thing is that cigarettes were banned on health grounds and not appearance. Most clubs allowed smoking until the compulsory ban. By your argument I would not be able to drink coke and drive as it looks the same as drinking beer.

sorry missed this. You are of course correct GB72 but the substance (if legal) is irrelevant, it is an offence to consume food or drink while driving

 

[GB72]

sorry missed this. You are of course correct GB72 but the substance (if legal) is irrelevant, it is an offence to consume food or drink while driving

Sorry, meant that you could not drink coke in the clubhouse then drive home as that looks the same as drinking beer. The matter is that at present it is legal to use an ecig indoors. That said, I respect any establishment's right to say no and at the weekend I used it outdoors to err on the side of caution.

I suppose what I am looking for is clarity across the board. I think that this has caught most places and not just golf clubs by surprise. A simple sign saying that it is allowed or not would avoid a great deal of confusion and allow people to know where they stand from the off. Ideally, if they are not to be used in a bar, they can come up with a slightly better solution than sending me out with the smokers though.

I think that over the next few months most places will develop a policy as only a matter of months ago ecigs were pretty thin on the ground but now they are everywhere.

 

[GB72]

Well, the verdict is in and the committee has asked that they be used outside as they could cause unnecessary problems

 

[Rooter]

Well, the verdict is in and the committee has asked that they be used outside as they could cause unnecessary problems

fair enough i think. you dont have to go the "smoking zone" just outside.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

to be fair .....and honest :smirk: they only banned 1 person and it was just sex not rampant sex...........so by the letter of the law there is wiggle room :rofl:

They only banned one person? Did they not want to ban the other person involved?

 

[Rooter]

They only banned one person? Did they not want to ban the other person involved?

Who said there were 2 people?!!

 

[CMAC]

They only banned one person? Did they not want to ban the other person involved?

he was a single that day :lol:

 

[Rooter]

he was a single that day :lol:

And Pamela Handerson has a virtual ban...

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

he was a single that day :lol:

Ahh, I was thrown by the reference to sex, I'm not sure a single would count in that definition for me

 

[macca64]

I smoke, don't agree with the vap sticks indoors, only my opinion,

 

[RGDave]

Wow.... fascinating thread.

I use an e-cig and have done for nearly 2 years. I wouldn't use it in the clubhouse or expect anywhere to allow it despite the lack of specific laws surrounding their use in public buildings.

They will become banned in the same way as smoking, you can bet on that. Personally speaking, I feel it's a shame as some places actually benefit from allowing vaping. It would be better for places to make a decision (one way or the other) rather than bring in legislation.

By the way - there has been research. They don't need to be regulated to be safer, they are safer. The plastic ones that look like a cigarette are more or less a placebo as well as being an utter rip-off compared to a refillable one. They are not 100% safe... it's about harm reduction. The government would like them to be sold as a "medicine" but the EU kicked that possibility into the deep rough.
From 2016 they will be restricted in some ways. Articles claiming they will be medicines in 2016 are wrong... including the BBC.

FYI.

 

[CMAC]

Wow.... fascinating thread.

I use an e-cig and have done for nearly 2 years. I wouldn't use it in the clubhouse or expect anywhere to allow it despite the lack of specific laws surrounding their use in public buildings.

They will become banned in the same way as smoking, you can bet on that. Personally speaking, I feel it's a shame as some places actually benefit from allowing vaping. It would be better for places to make a decision (one way or the other) rather than bring in legislation.

By the way - there has been research. They don't need to be regulated to be safer, they are safer. The plastic ones that look like a cigarette are more or less a placebo as well as being an utter rip-off compared to a refillable one. They are not 100% safe... it's about harm reduction. The government would like them to be sold as a "medicine" but the EU kicked that possibility into the deep rough.
From 2016 they will be restricted in some ways. Articles claiming they will be medicines in 2016 are wrong... including the BBC.

FYI.

evidence?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They appeared to have been banned in the clubhouses I have visited this year.

Understand they can also become addictive ?

 

[RGDave]

evidence?

Evidence.. of the government wanting to go the "medicines route"...?

Plenty, mostly letters from current MPs/MEPs and Linda McAvan (MEP) (before she realised it wasn't going to work)... *however* since the recent tobacco products directive, plenty of MPs have softened their stance towards "light touch regulation"....

Most vapers never wanted the full medicines approach, obviously.

(maybe I should have said "wanted".... so, I take your point).

Do you use an e-cig?