Vaping in the Clubhouse

[GB72]

I have just emailed my club about this and thought I would see what the forum thinks. I do not want this to turn into a moral argument on ecigs and vaping and whether it is just a crutch, whether they are bad for you and whether I should just go cold turkey.

The fact is that I have been off the cigarettes for over 3 months now, in a large part due to using an ecig and vaping instead of smoking. Most pubs and clubs that I have been to are more than happy for people to use their ecigs in the bar and this is perfectly legal. To my knowledge, however, my club does not have a policy on this. I have no doubt that if I started using it without raising it first there would be complaints so I am taking the safe route.

So, does anyone's club actually have a policy on the use of ecigs and vaping in the clubhouse. Is it something that would offend you if people did it. Just interested to hear the lie of the land on this.

 

[fundy]

Its a bit of an odd one this, still very little research into vaping and what the chemicals are and their impact (if any). Personally think it should be no different to normal smoke, off you go outside, at least until the research into the effect they have is conclusive. That said plenty of places allowing them, seem to now be allowed in most card rooms/casinos and pubs.

As for it being legal, thats only because they havent got round to it yet

 

[GB72]

Its a bit of an odd one this, still very little research into vaping and what the chemicals are and their impact (if any). Personally think it should be no different to normal smoke, off you go outside, at least until the research into the effect they have is conclusive. That said plenty of places allowing them, seem to now be allowed in most card rooms/casinos and pubs.

As for it being legal, thats only because they havent got round to it yet

I agree with that, it is only a matter of time before the legislators get hold of it. That said, if there are no toxins in the vapour then they would have to ban all nicotine replacement therapies. The problem is that it is marketed as an alternative to smoking as opposed to a way of quitting.

My argument would be that it is currently legal and clubhouses allowed smoking when it was legal and so vaping should be allowed. Then again, I would say that as I am the one who wants to use it.

 

[Airlie_Andy]

As these products are not currently Regulated lots of work places, including my own,are banning them to be on the safe side. Not sure on places like golf clubs and bars though.

 

[G1BB0]

a lot of pub chains have now banned them, I got asked to goto the smokers area outside..... lets just say I wasnt best pleased, I am vaping to avoid smoking not carry on joining those that still are!

Hopefully they will be ok and allow it :thup:

 

[fundy]

for those of you using them, do you not have any concerns as to the health risks of them? or is it just a case of they cant be as bad for you as real fags?

 

[GB72]

a lot of pub chains have now banned them, I got asked to goto the smokers area outside..... lets just say I wasnt best pleased, I am vaping to avoid smoking not carry on joining those that still are!

Hopefully they will be ok and allow it :thup:

That is a good point and one that I have experienced as well. For someone who is trying to avoid the temptation of smoking, it is really not ideal to be sent out to stand with people puffing away, especially on a night out when the willpower is lowered after a few beers.

 

[GB72]

for those of you using them, do you not have any concerns as to the health risks of them? or is it just a case of they cant be as bad for you as real fags?

Pretty much this. I do not see it as a long term solution but rather a stepping stone. If this can get me through the first 6months to a year then I can start cutting down on it. To be fair, I do not use it that often, maybe a couple of puffs every hour or so.

 

[Birchy]

For me it either allow it all or ban it all. Most places will err on the side of caution and ban them imo.

 

[GB72]

In all honesty, I suspect that it is something that the club has not even considered yet. I have seen quite a few people using them on the course but either nobody has complained or nobody has tried using one in the clubhouse (that is except a mate of mine from my old club who I signed in, he had a few puffs on his but nobody commented and I had no idea what to do and whether to tell him to put it away).

 

[Khamelion]

IF someone is vaping as an aid to stopping smoking altogether, then until the automatic action of wanting to put something into their mouth goes away, then said vaper should join the rank and file of those smoking outside.

Perhaps the thought of smoking a pretend cigarette in the cold and wet will be enough for some to give it up altogether.

 

[Alex1975]

I am a smoker and I think if asked to be the guy making policy for the club I would suggest that it not be allowed. I think the club house is a family atmosphere and its not a good look for the kids/younger players to see this is acceptable.

I am keen to try one of these ecigs but for example if I were to have one and fancy a go while at work I would go in the hall or toilet or something, again, purely based on looks.

 

[bladeplayer]

Very same discussion is starting to do the rounds over here now Greg, i realy dont know enough about them to comment on them & i can see both sides of the discussion ala G1BBO should someone trying to give up be made go into the smoking area to use their ecig ?
BUT should someone out for a pint or a meal have to inhale whatever it is thats in the smoke you just exhaled ..

i can see places of business erring with caution & banning them tho


Might make an interesting poll tho.... id be in the NOT allowing them group , but ive never smoked so id be biased



good luck with quitting by the way ................ must be easy my Mrs has given them up loadsa times (old ones still the best )

 

[Jack_bfc]

Strange thing is. Kids are going straight to ecigs as they are seen to be 'non toxic', dont stink and you still get the nicoteen hit...

I know they dont allow them in any of the office complex I frequent and I believe they dont allow them in Football stadia concorses etc.

There is no official age limit for selling them either althugh I know a fella witha bargain booze frachise and they have made an 18+ policy for selling them and the mark up and profit is outrageous..

Im really glad I quit before this as an opion....

 

[Fyldewhite]

Quite a few use them in our club. As a non (ex!!) smoker I really don't have an issue. They don't produce smog, don't smell and there seems to be little evidence of second hand effects so don't see why I would be justified in objecting really. Overall, if they help people give up then that's a good thing and I for one support anything that helps. I know just how hard it is to kick it.

 

[Alex1975]

Strange thing is. Kids ar going straight to ecigs as they are seen to be 'non toxic', dont stink an you still get the nicoteen hit...

I know they dont allow them in any of the office complex I frequent and I believethey dont allow them in Football stadia concorses etc.

There is no official age limit for selling them either althugh I know a fella witha barain booze frachise and they have made an 18+ policy for selling them and the mark up and profit is outrageous..

Im really glad I quit before this as an opion....

Interesting, that would be my exact concern.

 

[Mattyboy]

I am a smoker and I think if asked to be the guy making policy for the club I would suggest that it not be allowed. I think the club house is a family atmosphere and its not a good look for the kids/younger players to see this is acceptable.

Nor is alcohol a good look so please shut the bar as well!

I got pulled up at the Selhurst on Saturday for using one. Now I have openly used this from the same seat for two years with not a comment, but jobsworth steward pulled me up. Ironically it was half time and there was 1000 Southampton fans smoking the real thing not 40 yards from me - but that's not a problem.

Its all a bit daft if you ask me.

To answer your question - they are used in our bar and as far as I know there are no plans to ban them.

 

[CMAC]

should be treated the same as cigs imo

 

[Alex1975]

Nor is alcohol a good look so please shut the bar as well!

I got pulled up at the Selhurst on Saturday for using one. Now I have openly used this from the same seat for two years with not a comment, but jobsworth steward pulled me up. Ironically it was half time and there was 1000 Southampton fans smoking the real thing not 40 yards from me - but that's not a problem.

Its all a bit daft if you ask me.

To answer your question - they are used in our bar and as far as I know there are no plans to ban them.

Two wrongs.....

 

[fundy]

Nor is alcohol a good look so please shut the bar as well!

I got pulled up at the Selhurst on Saturday for using one. Now I have openly used this from the same seat for two years with not a comment, but jobsworth steward pulled me up. Ironically it was half time and there was 1000 Southampton fans smoking the real thing not 40 yards from me - but that's not a problem.

Its all a bit daft if you ask me.

To answer your question - they are used in our bar and as far as I know there are no plans to ban them.

How can people questioning whether it is right for something that hasnt been properly tested (or regulated) being allowed be a bit daft? If they have been fully tested, the chemicals are regulated etc and proven to be no issue then fine, until then its hardly "a bit daft" imo. If you want to use them untested thats up to you but to expect them not to be treated the same as ciggies a bit optimistic for me