When it is working out the average for each club, do it just do a simple average or can they be set to use the distance you hit most of the time ie taking out the Sunday best and the duffs? Unless the duff is the most frequentThey don’t it’s total distance but over time you’ll get the average for each club and I’m sure we’re all clever enough to know roughly how much a ball has rolled especially with iron shots.
But then are we clever enough
I don't think we are and I think this is one of the major issues with shot trackers.They don’t it’s total distance but over time you’ll get the average for each club and I’m sure we’re all clever enough to know roughly how much a ball has rolled especially with iron shots.
But then are we clever enough
To be honest I can’t remember it’s been 6 years since I used it and my memories about as good as a goldfish. I think you could delete shots and discount them using the app I’d have to look into it again to get that answer.When it is working out the average for each club, do it just do a simple average or can they be set to use the distance you hit most of the time ie taking out the Sunday best and the duffs? Unless the duff is the most frequent
If you’re using it purely for distance and that’s the only metric you’re measuring then fair enough. But for the average golfer even getting and average number is going to help them have a better idea of what to hit in certain situations. a lot of club golfers don’t need to worry about carry they’d be better focused on dispersion and short game.
Absolutely get that and agree...
I never tried the other brands and certainly would not have one that needs a yet another subscription service payment.Absolutely get that and agree...
My problem is that one round bunker play will be Tour level and the next it'll be 54 hcp level.....same for most parts of my game.
I've tried the 3 main ones at various times and the main reason I stopped was because I found myself worrying too much about whether the shot was captured by the unit and not concentrating enough on the shot itself...that and the odd shot getting missed.
If one shot gets missed or read incorrectly then you have to check all of them...in fact you have to check all of them every time to be certain...
Once there's a guaranteed capture I may be interested again but not at 100 quid a year.....
They don't, but I also don't use these systems to measure my shots.
Absolutely get that and agree...
My problem is that one round bunker play will be Tour level and the next it'll be 54 hcp level.....same for most parts of my game.
I guess I'm a weirdo, I've never worked out what my carries are. I just know my 7 iron goes about 155 in summer, 160 in a heatwave, and 145 in winter. 150 in autumn and spring I guess.
I think some of them use some sort of statistical analysis and remove data "outliers" from the overall calculation...any system that doesnt do this the data simply isnt worth the paper it is written on. I think at least one system uses what it calls "Performance Average" (Arccos calls it "smart distance") and my analysis of data from that system lead me to believe that the figure quoted as "P-Ave" is around the 75th percentile.When it is working out the average for each club, do it just do a simple average or can they be set to use the distance you hit most of the time ie taking out the Sunday best and the duffs? Unless the duff is the most frequent
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this but my understanding is that good shots and poor shots often have a random distribution it is peoples inclination to give stories to events that leads to a perception of non randomness. Particularly as clusters will appear in random distributions
Obviously they don’t it’s total distance. It also doesn’t know if it’s uphill/downhill/into wind/with wind etc.
Sure individual shots can be randomly distributed, but they would still be within your normal range. I'm suggesting most golfers normal range for a given shot type excluding the odd outlier amazing or terrible shot is consistent and narrow enough enough that your weak areas will always be weaker than your strong areas. Taking bunker shots as an example, you may hit the odd bunker shot to 3' but if bunker play is your weak point the long term stats will show that, no matter how random any individual round feels.
I use it for a few different things. My stats highlighted that I needed to improve my putting in the 3-12 foot range (bought a new putter
) and my approaches in the 175-225 range so I got rid of the 5 iron and replaced with a hybrid as when I dug into it my main weakness was 175-200 which was 5 iron distance a lot of the time.That’s because of his podcast, they were talking about it last week. One of the podcast hosts with him is a data guy at Arccos.
Might have to give that a listen then.
They talk a lot about the elusive "average " golfer......
I don’t see an issue with that! Not much difference to what gets chatted about on here in its multiple different guises.
