US Open 2025 - Oakmont

[Swango1980]

What on earth? He's finished T2, 3, and T7 twice in US Opens already. He's doing pretty well with the challenge. He can't win them all!

Well, as you've pointed out, he's won none of them

 

[Orikoru]

Well, as you've pointed out, he's won none of them

I mean all the golf tournaments, not all the US Opens.

 

[D-S]

Back to the US Open: I was watching Sheffler play on the Saturday and he was so pissed off all of the time. And the American commentary just kept harping on about how Sheffler never lets things get to him, on and on and on. Whilst you could clearly read in his body language and facial expression that he was getting very annoyed - which is fair, he was battling but nog really moving the needle. I remember him coming across in similar fashion at last year's Open. I think he is what in cricket is called a 'flat track bully'. He thrives on easy courses and can really dominate, but does not enjoy being challenged?

Is Augusta a ‘flat track’? I don’t think so, famously in topography, but also more importantly, difficulty. A 4 shot win there last year and 4th this year would suggest that he plays well there. I don’t think Quail Hollow is a pushover either where he beat the world’s best too.

 

[Wilson]

It's amazing watching the fan club bending over backwards to defend golden child for his childish behaviour

If it was Hatton , Bryson etc they would be calling for a ban

Utter nonsense.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

It’s not easy to win one single major - none of them are played on “Flat tracks”

As well as being very talented it also takes a touch of good fortune

Scheffler has three majors now - that’s not a fluke

His game might be suited to a certain type of greens or grass etc but he isn’t a “flat track bully”

 

[Mel Smooth]

Scheffler struggles on different grasses. He’s not a flat track bully but he definitely is able to cement his position as world number one by playing courses that suit his game.

 

[The Squirrel]

Scheffler struggles on different grasses. He’s not a flat track bully but he definitely is able to cement his position as world number one by playing courses that suit his game.

Well in 2024 he won 9 times across, across multiple continents, and was top 10 in 16/19 tournaments he entered. Never missed a cut.
When travelling away from the USA (where presumably the familiar courses and grasses that suit his style are found?) he was actually even stronger, his results being T7, WIN, WIN.
There must be a whole lot of courses that suit his game

 

[Depreston]

What a fantastic weekend of golf loads of tree pervs exist is one of my takeaways from the weekend

Golf courses are bland without some trees apparently

That place is an absolute test of golf I think even with the semi rough being wider the winning score would have barely been double figures

Penal bunkers , fast and slopey greens and no flat lies on fairways

A 360 yard par 4 which was ridiculously hard was a nice change


On the club throwing and tantrums I think you should get a severe punishment if an injury or something is damaged like that tee marker

 

[nickjdavis]

He should have been given relief

The rules official in attendance was quite clear that there was no rising water around his feet where he took his stance. Nor was there water pooled around his ball. The ground was just very wet. The definition of temporary water is quite clear in this regard....at what point do you start getting subjective about the amount of water in the ground?

The fact that some random comes up a couple of minutes afterwards and starts trampling round showing rising water where the ball was, does not make the officials ruling wrong.

 

[Backache]

A guy at my club had a new Square-to-Square Jailbird, he gave it to me for one hit on the practice green and I sank a 12-footer. Annoying as I'll have to buy one now.

12 footers are almost random, it's sinking eight to ten five footers in a row which gets you licking your lips.

 

[sunshine]

loads of tree pervs exist is one of my takeaways from the weekend

Golf courses are bland without some trees apparently

That place is an absolute test of golf I think even with the semi rough being wider the winning score would have barely been double figures

Tree pervs - brilliant

There were a lot of tree pervs in the 1960s and 70s. Seems like many golfers today still want to be back there.

History - Oakmont Country Club

Oakmont Country Club

www.oakmontcc.org

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The rules official in attendance was quite clear that there was no rising water around his feet where he took his stance. Nor was there water pooled around his ball. The ground was just very wet. The definition of temporary water is quite clear in this regard....at what point do you start getting subjective about the amount of water in the ground?

The fact that some random comes up a couple of minutes afterwards and starts trampling round showing rising water where the ball was, does not make the officials ruling wrong.

Burns whilst taking the ruling gracefully said whilst he was walking towards the ball with it being in the low point the water was coming up

There was a lot of standing water

If that was any other event he would have been given relief

It was clear as soon as he hit the ball the area was sodden

 

[D-S]

Burns whilst taking the ruling gracefully said whilst he was walking towards the ball with it being in the low point the water was coming up

There was a lot of standing water

If that was any other event he would have been given relief

It was clear as soon as he hit the ball the area was sodden

Sodden - yes. Meeting the criteria for relief from Temporary Water - no.

Whether you agree with the criteria for identifying Temporary Water is a separate argument.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Sodden - yes. Meeting the criteria for relief from Temporary Water - no.

Whether you agree with the criteria for identifying Temporary Water is a separate argument.

With water coming up as the ball is hit it’s clearly affecting the players ability to be able to have a clean strike on the ball

In those conditions multiple events have gone to pick and place etc and given players relief

And it would have happened in the Masters , US PGA etc

But not in the US Open

They prob shouldn’t have even restarted when they did but they didn’t want it to go to a Monday imo

But that’s the USGA

 

[Swango1980]

With water coming up as the ball is hit it’s clearly affecting the players ability to be able to have a clean strike on the ball

In those conditions multiple events have gone to pick and place etc and given players relief

And it would have happened in the Masters , US PGA etc

But not in the US Open

They prob shouldn’t have even restarted when they did but they didn’t want it to go to a Monday imo

But that’s the USGA

I think the only way "Temporary Water" can be used is if there is water visible around ball (i.e. puddle), or water rises to surface on players stance (without player pushing down).

Presumably neither happened, thus there could be no relief for temporary water.

Whether they used preferred lies or not is a separate issue.

 

[TigerTime]

LIV fanboys out in force I see. Their obsession with Rory is extremely bizarre.

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1934640380470768120

 

[Tashyboy]

Like most links courses.

What's the difference between links golf and regular golf?


Links are wide open without trees lining fairways. There is also a lack of water hazards. It is often said that links courses are far more difficult for golfers to play due to the layout of the course. There is also a wind element that blows the ball around and can cause scores to climb during a golf tournament.

quote, Wikipedia.
Originally a links course, trees were added in the 1950s-1960s. Most were removed beginning after the 1994 U.S. Open, with between 5,000 and 8,000 eliminated during a 2007 renovation alone

So as I say, it was a links, then wasn't a links, and is now a links again. It is still bland looking.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

What's the difference between links golf and regular golf?


Links are wide open without trees lining fairways. There is also a lack of water hazards. It is often said that links courses are far more difficult for golfers to play due to the layout of the course. There is also a wind element that blows the ball around and can cause scores to climb during a golf tournament.

quote, Wikipedia.
Originally a links course, trees were added in the 1950s-1960s. Most were removed beginning after the 1994 U.S. Open, with between 5,000 and 8,000 eliminated during a 2007 renovation alone

So as I say, it was a links, then wasn't a links, and is now a links again. It is still bland looking.

It’s not a links course

 

[sunshine]

It wasn't a links to begin with, then it still wasn't a links for a few decades, and now it's back to not being a links again.