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UKIP a change on the political horizon or not.

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And so....

Back to somewhere near 'Ukip and the Political Horizon'....

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Foxholer said:
Where in that, four and a half year old, report does it show any evidence that immigrants per se - as opposed to more needy ( e.g. homeless) - get priority?!

That Somalian family - of 7 in a 1 bedroom place - indicates quite the opposite!
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90 minutes later...No reply still!

That'll be a 'Nowhere' then!

So much for the 'Groan'! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ca10BuVvWxQ/hqdefault.jpg
 
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Ethan said:
I see you are a true loyal Daily Wail reader, only interested in their tired old rhetoric and completely unconcerned with hypocrisy.

You whine about a welfare seeker or immigrant who gets £50 off the Govt but have no concern about a billionaire born in the UK who avoids paying tax in this country by claiming non-dom status and denying his UK citizenship.

For other readers, this refers to Jonathan Harmsworth, aka Viscount Rothermere, owner of the Daily Wail, who claims non-com status and the Daily Wail group avoids tax by channeling revenue through a chain of offshore companies so pays virtually no UK tax. Truly the paper for patriotic hypocrites.
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Please show me where I said that, if you can? I suggest it's your prejudice of me imagining it.

My Mail Avatar was meant to be a joke, but I guess its not due to my lower intellect.
 
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SocketRocket said:
Why don't you listen and actually read what I post. For the last time before I go up the pub. It wasn't me that said this it was in one of Adey's posts. i will edit the number in a minute.

It's post 113.
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I was replying to your post 123 (which quoted/replied to me) - as per the quote (in 126)! Adey had already agreed with me - in post 116! And, imo, aptly described those that thought otherwise!

Now, stop shifting goalposts and actually answer the 2 questions I posed! Or do you simply refuse to admit that you are wrong, because, on this matter, all the evidence suggests you are wrong and you haven't presented any that suggest you are right (apart from winged!)!
 
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Foxholer said:
This is the main reason why I detest rags like the Daily Mail that warps its reporting to pander to the prejudices of its, easily led, readers! The scary thing is that the DM is the 'newspaper' with the highest circulation! Propaganda is what it really is!
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Do you hold the same views of papers on the other side of the political spectrum such as the Guardian or the Daily Mirror?
 
ColchesterFC said:
Do you hold the same views of papers on the other side of the political spectrum such as the Guardian or the Daily Mirror?
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Certainly so for the Daily Mirror - it doesn't seem to bother to verify stories!

Guardian is a 'proper' paper and ranks with Torygraph and Indy imo. A 'left' bias, but the one (of those 3 or 4 that I read) that I tend to go to if I want in more analysis than opinion. Maybe that's because it started as a 'City' paper like the ones I 'grew up with'. the Indy was a nice concept, but hasn't fulfilled its dream! Times seems to has gone 'down market' over the years. Torygraph used to be by far the best for sport overall, but that seems to have slipped over the last few years!

Matt is easily my favourite cartoonist!
 
Foxholer said:
Certainly so for the Daily Mirror - it doesn't seem to bother to verify stories!
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I particularly like their headline today about Boris Johnson playing football with the kids in the park. Everyone else has gone for "Boris trips up child while playing football" or something along those lines. The Mirror has gone for "Watch London Mayor send 9-year-old boy flying with crunching challenge"
 
ColchesterFC said:
I particularly like their headline today about Boris Johnson playing football with the kids in the park. Everyone else has gone for "Boris trips up child while playing football" or something along those lines. The Mirror has gone for "Watch London Mayor send 9-year-old boy flying with crunching challenge"
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I hate that this is news.

It isn't news. In the slightest. It's not even slightly relevant to anything in anyone's life.
 
SocketRocket said:
Why don't you listen and actually read what I post. For the last time before I go up the pub. It wasn't me that said this it was in one of Adey's posts. i will edit the number in a minute.

It's post 113.
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That post was me stepping out of the box and looking back in. People are looking for solutions to their problems and someone is offering it, wether it's a load of old bull or not is irrelevant.

I know now how any stats canbe twisted to prove your arguement, it's very easy to do with politics. Just go to the correct areas and ask the questions. I'm sure if you did research in West London, the opinions on immigration would be totally different than if you went to an inner city suburb that is full of people on benefits.
 
CheltenhamHacker said:
I hate that this is news.

It isn't news. In the slightest. It's not even slightly relevant to anything in anyone's life.
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Of course it's news. It's a chance for The Mirror to put the boot in to a Tory. And you could just as easily change Mirror for Mail and Tory for Labour.

I agree that it isn't real news but they have to fill the papers with something and that goes for all the papers not just the Mirror. It's a bit like TOWIE/Big Brother etc being on TV. I have absolutely no idea why people find it interesting but enough people obviously watch it for them to keep making new series.
 
Allegedly some bird from Latvia ? Eh? Is put under pressure from the EU to stand down? So she could lead a delegation to Kazakhstan. So the consequences are that UKIP lose 1 million quid from the very establishment that UKIP want nothing to do with.

Hmm no skullguggery there then is there.

if the powers that be in the UK political circle are rattled it seems that rattle is now being felt in Brussels.
 
Never understood UKIP. Bunch of nobody's who have found a away of getting paid a lot of money from an organization they want nothing to do with and have no hope of bringing down and the British electorate back them. Nice work if you can get it.
 
Foxholer said:
It's still £1M that won't be going into UKIP coffers!

You've still not answered either of those questions I posed the other night btw! :rolleyes:
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Seems like my stalker has returned. Get this! I have had enough of you and your silly policy of constantly trying to discredit everything I post. I will be placing you on my ignore list right now and there you will stay so I wont need to read any more of it.

:rolleyes:
 
UKIP used to get money from the EU ?!

Surely they wouldn't take funds from the group they want the country to leave ?
 
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