Two different golf coaches

[bradleywedge]

Have told me two different swings with the driver.

One said turn right hand over into a strong grip and swing inside

The other says take a normal grip and take the club outside

what chance have I got?

 

[Imurg]

50:50....

 

[bradleywedge]

50:50....

Thats the thing.

Used the normal grip swinging outside the whole round yesterday and drove appallingly

so on the 18th I drove the first one ob left and thought right I'll try the other swing inside and proceeded to push it ob right

I gave up.

 

[Billysboots]

I’m not sure following the advice of two coaches, especially when that advice is contradictory, is ever going to help anyone unravel the mysteries of the golf swing!

 

[bradleywedge]

..and another thing, when you go and see a teaching pro (pros) why do they always find something different you're doing wrong every time?

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

As confused as that sounds the first question I have is why are you seeing or listening to 2 different swing coaches anyway. Both could be right, equally both could be wrong depending on your set up, other swing floors and goals they think you’re trying to achieve.

Are they trying to teach you a different swing method or working with what you have. Sounds more like you need to communicate what you want from your game and see which coach suits the goal you desire and stick to just one of them. It always gets worse before it gets better.

 

[Orikoru]

..and another thing, when you go and see a teaching pro (pros) why do they always find something different you're doing wrong every time?

Because you're paying them to??

 

[Voyager EMH]

The last time I tried to swing inside I made a mark on the ceiling and a dent in the coffee table.

I may have misunderstood.

 

[TigerTime]

My own thoughts after experiencing different coaching over the years.

Some will give you little bits here and there to keep you coming back (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Some will persuade you into monthly/weekly sessions to manage your game throughout the year (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Some will try and entice you by suggesting 'long term' improvement (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Some will just try and fix symptoms instead of getting to the root causes of your issues (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Someone will just give you complete nonsense and don't have a clue what they are talking about (leads to more problems - more money for them!)

All of the above may improve your game and your swing but you will always be back in a undefined period of time wanting more or because something has stopped working.

I'm in no doubt there is a lot of coaches out there giving lessons/coaching who are simply not up to the standard required. IMO a good coach would be able to identify the root cause of your issues fairly quickly, with a systematic plan for changing it and seeing improvements in terms of ball striking and dispersion fairly quickly, those however are hard to come by as it's not good business for them to fix someone in a few lessons rather than say over a years worth. What makes them more money? Even if their intentions are good their number one priority will be earning a decent living in a more competitive world.

 

[Neilds]

My own thoughts after experiencing different coaching over the years.

Some will give you little bits here and there to keep you coming back (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Some will persuade you into monthly/weekly sessions to manage your game throughout the year (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Some will try and entice you by suggesting 'long term' improvement (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Some will just try and fix symptoms instead of getting to the root causes of your issues (more money for them - it is their career after all)
Someone will just give you complete nonsense and don't have a clue what they are talking about (leads to more problems - more money for them!)

All of the above may improve your game and your swing but you will always be back in a undefined period of time wanting more or because something has stopped working.

I'm in no doubt there is a lot of coaches out there giving lessons/coaching who are simply not up to the standard required. IMO a good coach would be able to identify the root cause of your issues fairly quickly, with a systematic plan for changing it and seeing improvements in terms of ball striking and dispersion fairly quickly, those however are hard to come by as it's not good business for them to fix someone in a few lessons rather than say over a years worth. What makes them more money? Even if their intentions are good their number one priority will be earning a decent living in a more competitive world.

Bit of a sweeping statement that is quite rude about golf coaches. I think there is more problem with golfers not practicing what what the pro has told them, thinking they are doing things right when they aren't or looking for quick fixes like those that can be found on YouTube and Facebook.

If coaches are so bad (in your eyes) why do top professionals keep going back to coaches to try and improve? Surely they can just have 1 session and they will be Open Champion according to you.

 

[TigerTime]

Bit of a sweeping statement that is quite rude about golf coaches. I think there is more problem with golfers not practicing what what the pro has told them, thinking they are doing things right when they aren't or looking for quick fixes like those that can be found on YouTube and Facebook.

If coaches are so bad (in your eyes) why do top professionals keep going back to coaches to try and improve? Surely they can just have 1 session and they will be Open Champion according to you.

I think you have misunderstood my post. Absolutely, golfers themselves are part of the issues, I agree with that.

I never said all golf coaches were bad. Bit of a sweeping statement that.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

I think a big issue with golf coaching isn’t to Pro/coach themselves. It’s the person going for lessons doesn’t communicate what they want from the session or what their long term goal is.

Instead they rake over ball after ball and just whack away expecting Pro time all their flaws and give them one quick fix that solves everything.

I had a chat with our Pro this morning laid out my current health issues, what I potentially think is wrong and what I want to achieve. His response was excellent , rather than a full lesson he’s booked me in next week for a 30minute once over to see if my concerns are correct, get some video for him to takeaway and identify the actual
Faults. We’re then going to sit down go through the what works in the swing, what isn’t worth changing and seeing what’s actually needed to improve me. He’s also asked I go to that session with my 3 goals and what I want out of the game and how
Much I’m willing to put the practice in before deciding how deep we go.

 

[TigerTime]

I think you have misunderstood my post. Absolutely, golfers themselves are part of the issues, I agree with that.

I never said all golf coaches were bad. Bit of a sweeping statement that.

For what it's also worth. I've spoken to one touring pro, and one aspiring touring pro who agreed with me.

 

[Neilds]

For what it's also worth. I've spoken to one touring pro, and one aspiring touring pro who agreed with me.

2 agree with you, that must cover most of them then

 

[Oddsocks]

Have told me two different swings with the driver.

One said turn right hand over into a strong grip and swing inside

The other says take a normal grip and take the club outside

what chance have I got?

I can understand a coach for long game, short game and putting giving them specifics in your game to work on, but why would you allow two pro’s to work on the same part (ie driving)

Let says both have a three lesson plan to get you on track, both will have a different route to get there and I bet they both conflict.

Waze on my mobile verses the satnav in the car jumps to the forefront. Both very very different routes that will inevitably get you to where you want to be. But… as some point you will have to pick be of the routes.