spongebob59
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Iinteresting quote from 2011 !!
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/...est-gamble-yet/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/...est-gamble-yet/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
TRUMP, What the hell is going on
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SocketRocket
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I hope you include yourself in that 99%
People have opinions and a forum is a good place to discuss them, if anyone finds it offensive then there is a door available.
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I’m definitely one of the 99%.
Unlike yourself, I’ve not tried to deny a poster from having an opinion.
See posts #502 & 506
drdel
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IMO we need to recognise that the 'fundamentalists' have a different set of beliefs. They do not value the life of those (infidels) in the west and consequently you have a problem when trying to use 'western' logic of tolerance and the need for peaceful co-existence. There is no desire to co-exist they believe they have the true, fundamental and dominant belief.
Until we find a way of achieving co-existence these tensions will sometimes boil over and the risk that it will not easily be contained always exists. A pacifist stance will not work as the fundamentalists will use the time (see Obama 'do nothing policy) to continue unhindered in their struggle for dominance in the absence of any containment. However distasteful we may find military action the 'western' cultures have no choice but the respond and show strength of purpose otherwise we just capitulate - we've (UK-USA) known this for at least 30 years.
The actions in the region have been building for some years and they have become more and more emboldened and the likelihood is that a more serious terrorist incursion was a high probability in comparison to the relatively local events of recent months.
We in the west are not in control of the actions planned against us and regretfully when when pushed the only answer may be to push back.
Until we find a way of achieving co-existence these tensions will sometimes boil over and the risk that it will not easily be contained always exists. A pacifist stance will not work as the fundamentalists will use the time (see Obama 'do nothing policy) to continue unhindered in their struggle for dominance in the absence of any containment. However distasteful we may find military action the 'western' cultures have no choice but the respond and show strength of purpose otherwise we just capitulate - we've (UK-USA) known this for at least 30 years.
The actions in the region have been building for some years and they have become more and more emboldened and the likelihood is that a more serious terrorist incursion was a high probability in comparison to the relatively local events of recent months.
We in the west are not in control of the actions planned against us and regretfully when when pushed the only answer may be to push back.
hovis
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I’m definitely one of the 99%.
Unlike yourself, I’ve not tried to deny a poster from having an opinion.
See posts #502 & 506
not trying to stop people having an opinion at all. it's when some people are stating their opinion as a fact when they got their information from Google or the news. nothing wrong with saying "I think trump had made a mistake" but to say he has made a mistake when they know Jack about the drone strike is stupid. for all we know he was on his way to collect a nuclear trigger. People would soon be slating trump if he had that Intel and didn't nothing with it
robinthehood
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Boris is too busy sunbathing to give a toss.
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You’re reading their opinion as fact, why not just dismiss it as an opinion or ask the poster to clarify, have a read of your post #502 and see how that post can be read in different ways.
drdel
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We don't rely on carrier pigeons or smoke signals anymore - him being in London will have zero impact on the Government/NATO/UN decision making, IMO.
the person you are defending though paul is the worste culprit for not allowing anyone else to have an opionion, no matter what te subjectYou’re reading their opinion as fact, why not just dismiss it as an opinion or ask the poster to clarify, have a read of your post #502 and see how that post can be read in different ways.
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And you are just as guilty making an assumption to suggest I’m defending someone!
Hovis, post #502, didn’t direct his post at anyone, I then thought it was funny and ironic that SR came along and got a bit personal with me and posting what he did after “liking” Hovis’s post and denying LP’s right to an opinion in post #506.
This whole forum works on opinions, whether formed or informed.
Bunkermagnet
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Ah, but some opinions are more improtant than others opinion
You should know by now there's a certain bunch who view this forum as their own domain and plaything.
robinthehood
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Never has a truer word been spokenAh, but some opinions are more improtant than others opinion
You should know by now there's a certain bunch who view this forum as their own domain and plaything.
SocketRocket
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Unbelievable comment. I merely stated my opinion in post #506 and fail to see any logic in your above comment, how on earth can I deny anyone from having an opinion.I’m definitely one of the 99%.
Unlike yourself, I’ve not tried to deny a poster from having an opinion.
See posts #502 & 506
SocketRocket
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How on earth can anyone stop another poster from stating an opinion?
Doon frae Troon
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Seemingly Lockheed shares went up 2% the day before the attack.
If true, that is surely within the criminal law area.
If true, that is surely within the criminal law area.
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Maybe some people should actually have an opinion on the thread subject as opposed to posting snide comments about posters
It’s a forum - people will post an opinion about something - either agree or disagree or post your own opinion , as opposed to posting about posters.
hovis
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God it must be so tiring being you
wasn't a snide comment. your just assuming based on your reputation
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Significant and shows the whole feeling within the cojntry when you go through the thread.
Iran will retaliate of that there is no doubt but it’s highly possible it won’t be direct and will target US allies - including the UK , anyone going to Dubai etc going to have to be careful. The US are already putting further troops into the area.
An unusual turn of events? Iraq Parliament votes in favour of asking all foreign soldiers to leave. Iraq, to a large extent, doesn’t have a viable army/air force, and has never really got with Iran yet wants the US out.
Its too complicated for me.
Its too complicated for me.
drdel
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Be interesting to know how they define "all" !
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