spongebob59
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TRUMP, What the hell is going on
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gmc40
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The President of the United States
larmen
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Must be fake, I remember him a lot more chubby and less defined in terms of muscles.
Is this the equivalent to Putin riding topless on a horse? Can we expect a calendar of Donald? Maybe in time for the secret santa season?
Is this the equivalent to Putin riding topless on a horse? Can we expect a calendar of Donald? Maybe in time for the secret santa season?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And so we have...
Trump: I didn't send Rudi to Ukraine
The bus is coming along the road and Trump is going to throw Giuliani under it - so we ask what the 'insurance' Giuliani says he has were that to happen.
And we hear today that back in September two officials in the White House Office of Management and Budget resigned over there being no good reason given for the hold put on military aid to Ukraine.
Meanwhile John Bolton has tweeted that 'our countries commitment to our national security priorities is under attack from within' What can he mean...?
And so do we see the White House start to turn?
Mulvaney sits and sweats. He always sweats - I wonder why...
Trump: I didn't send Rudi to Ukraine
The bus is coming along the road and Trump is going to throw Giuliani under it - so we ask what the 'insurance' Giuliani says he has were that to happen.
And we hear today that back in September two officials in the White House Office of Management and Budget resigned over there being no good reason given for the hold put on military aid to Ukraine.
Meanwhile John Bolton has tweeted that 'our countries commitment to our national security priorities is under attack from within' What can he mean...?
And so do we see the White House start to turn?
Mulvaney sits and sweats. He always sweats - I wonder why...
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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This is nuts. He's not been in the UK a day. Does he know he's lying?
- I've never thought about the NHS being on the table in trade talks I don't know where the rumour came from we want nothing to do with it - when we all know that he said everything was on the table...including the NHS
- I called the result of the Referendum in a Press Conference when I was in Turnberry to open my golf course the day before - he wasn't in Scotland the day before the Referendum - and he didn't call it at the non-existent press conference. He was in Scotland the day after the referendum.
- And of course he tells us that he doesn't know Prince Andrew - when he has been in a small group photograph with the Prince and Epstein. I suppose Trump wasn't introduced to the Prince, but I can't imagine that with Trump's averred great love of our royalty.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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oooh - Trump so not happy with Trudeau...though perhaps not surprising what Trudeau thinks of Trump given...
...back at the ranch, impeachment proceedings commence properly - and no matter what Trump might think of Adam Schiff - his rant about Schiff in the NATO press conference with Trudeau was unseemly at best - a "deranged human being" and a "liar" - well, as they say, it takes one...
...back at the ranch, impeachment proceedings commence properly - and no matter what Trump might think of Adam Schiff - his rant about Schiff in the NATO press conference with Trudeau was unseemly at best - a "deranged human being" and a "liar" - well, as they say, it takes one...
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Speaker Pelosi saying Dems are ready to move ahead with drafting articles of impeachment of the PotUS. Only the 3rd time in US history - and even though it's unlikely to run to Trump being removed from the Presidency this will be a stain on his record - a stain that be forever on his record - that he does not have the confidence of Congress - that he was negligent in protecting and adhering to the constitution of the United States.
I was listening to an American commentator on the radio the other day. He was saying how impeachment is strengthening Trump in his key areas. His supporters see it as an attempt by the establishment to stop 'their man' and they are rallying behind him. In effect, the Democrats are playing into his hands, handing him ammo to work with.
Trump doesn't care what the Democrats think, what the New York (in his eyes) media thinks, what Congress thinks. He is focussed on his core supporters and winning the next election. The rest is white noise and he is using it to his benefit.
The Democrats need to wise up to him otherwise he will win again next year. He is playing a different game to them and they have yet to realise and adapt.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Quite - and that is why the Dems have been very reluctant to initiate impeachment proceeding. They know it's hardening the core vote - but the polling figures in support of impeachment proceedings are strongly in favour of going ahead - even although though numbers wanting Trump removed as a result of the proceedings are currently much less so.
What happens in the Senate depends upon how much what we see from the proceedings change the views in any GOP senator's constituency - and therefore the support a GOP senator gives to Trump. They are mostly very behind Trump - but if the evidence presented starts to swing voters they might question the logic of maintaining their support of an absurdity. At the moment Trump is well safe - but his record is irrevocably stained.
All that besides - Trump is a shocking self-serving liar and acts in unconstitutional ways - so unless he is formally called out for his behaviour we will have more Trumps.
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To Trump and his supporters this is a conspiracy so there will be no stain. The circle Trump mixes in will see no stain. He is Teflon in his own world, the rest of the world does not matter to him.
You are giving him too much credit in one way and not enough in another. The genius of Trump, in an election sense, is that he has identified his vote and he is making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to appeal to anyone else. Democrat voters are lost to him so he doesn't bother with them, in fact he demonises them. He has split the country, made the US a laughing stock around the world. Do you think that bothers him or his country club pals? Not a bit of it. Impeachment is helping Trump, not hindering him. They have walked into this and his team must be laughing. Doh.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Whether Trump's supporters like it or not - whether they see it or not - is not what the historical record will say. Future readers of US history will be detached from the insanity of Trump and will just read of a president impeached for lies and misdemeanors - and breaches of the constitution of the United States.
Wolf
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When it comes to discussing US history his impeachment will very unlikely even be classed as a stain in his resume and only democrats will bother with it because all those following him see it as unjust so just like now at best it will split opinions whilst others will always defend it as democratic whining. Sad because as outsiders we can see whats accurate but thats how the US voters will see it.
As for the issue with Trudeau theres history there and in some instances i can see justification on certain things Trump has said about him and called him out on. Especially in regards of the minimum 2% GDP argument where Canada & Trudeau have fallen short for years in this area but still expect the same rights other NATO countries have who meet the target. Then theres the fact Trudeau & others have been openly caught on film mocking Trump. Whether we like him or others like him the people in power and attending NATO conferences should behave with a level of decorum and not like children mocking other leaders especially in the case where one is actually meeting the criteria sey and the other has continued to fail.
ger147
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And being found Not Guilty...
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Or - given the assessments of all but one of the Constitutional Academics asked for their view - Guilty - but according to the Senate - Not Proven...
And of course one reason he will most likely not be found guilty, is that he has prevented key witnesses (Mulvaney, Pompeo, Pence et al) from testifying - which - being obstruction of justice - is in itself an impeachable offence.
ger147
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...Not Guilty.
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Having breakfast in a hotel in Southampton with colleagues yesterday, one of them remarked that the UK election was getting like America in that he felt none of the leading candidates was suitable for the office.
With that an elderly American, presumably waiting to get on a ship, went on a turbo-nutter-rant about Trump and how wonderful Mrs Clinton would have been. My mate then trotted out a list of Clinton "issues" and it escalated....
...suffice to say, rational debate about this is no longer possible.
With that an elderly American, presumably waiting to get on a ship, went on a turbo-nutter-rant about Trump and how wonderful Mrs Clinton would have been. My mate then trotted out a list of Clinton "issues" and it escalated....
...suffice to say, rational debate about this is no longer possible.
User20204
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Not Guilty on the basis that turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Except, Judge Napolitano on Fox has said he thinks Trump will testify - and appeared to almost be goading Trump into testifying, saying how FABULOUS it would be were Trump to do that and SMASH his critics and such as Schiff with the GREATEST testimony and words- watched by the BIGGEST TV audience EVER of possibly 250million. ?
And if enough Americans decided that they’d want to eat goose or ham at Christmas and that turkeys should all be released into the wild...the turkeys just might ?
User20204
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Democrat council is getting tore to shreds by GOP Collins although what he's getting pressed on isn't that relevant to the Impeachment as it's all about who leaked Nunes's call records.
User20204
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The irony of Collins giving him grief for Shifft not attending has clearly been lost on him which I expect the Dems to bounce right back at them with.
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