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Trouble at the Euros

bladeplayer said:
Some of the reply's are a bit strange .

Each countrys FA should be in full control of their own match tickets through a vetted membership scheme
if there is fighting inside the ground the attributable to a certain country they are chucked out & banned

Surely there is a way to travel ban anyone involved in this kind of carry on , electronically flagging / tagging passports

People found guilty of this via video evidence should be jailed when home ,

Not sure how it would work but more control over alcohol sales would be a help

Authorities have to follow through on their threats but as someone mentioned earlier more of a fine for advertising than for racism , cowards the lot of them
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In Russia they don't give a toss to be honest, over here we have had banning orders that involve known hooligans having their passports collected by police x days/weeks before major tournaments. Tempted to say just airdrop that lot of mentalists in and see what happens. The Russians are stone cold sober as well, alcohol would achieve nothing.
 
Hosel Fade said:
What is drastically underreported is the fact these are essentially trained organised paramilitary hard as nails massive Russians that have all done 3 years military service and lay ambush attacks whilst equipped with the essentials in their bum bags (mma gloves so they can punch without knacking their hands, mouthpiece, balaclava, potentially a knife, wearing short shorts so they can kick at will and they pull the victims shirts up over their heads so they can't strike back)

That is what is happening.

Meanwhile the French police cannot be arsed, wait until they have ran in done damage and ran away again, then lob in tear gas not bothering in the slightest to arrest anyone.

Wonder what on earth they would do in response to a terrorist incident on this evidence?
Also putting England v Russia on in a massive ground like the Velodrome in the biggest most crime ridden deprived dive in all of France is a stroke of genius.

Rant over
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We're talking UEFA here though.

1. 1998 - massive hooligan problems involving England fans in Marseille, particularly.

2. Local hooligan gangs wont be wanting the same happening again, more prepared this time. Will be pumped for it. Marseille also have about 8 different mobs, so will all be trying to outdo each other.

3. Throw in a country who has a growing hooligan problem (Russia), who havent been able to travel as much over the decades, who will have good numbers there, and will be looking to prove themselves this time.

4. Put it in a ground where there will be 30-40,000 neutral tickets available, so segregation will be a massive problem.

5. But a piece of tarpaulin between 20,000 Russians and 5-10,000 English in a neutral section.

6. Put no riot police (CRS) in the buffer inbetween them, and just put "stewards" in there instead.

There is no excuse for the hooliganism, but to create a tinderbox for them is massively negligent by UEFA, but there not arsed. As long as they get the UEFA family sorted for tickets and hotels, they dont care. Lots of things the other night had hallmarks of Heysel, they were just lucky it was in a modern stadium.
 
Liverbirdie said:
We're talking UEFA here though.

1. 1998 - massive hooligan problems involving England fans in Marseille, particularly.

2. Local hooligan gangs wont be wanting the same happening again, more prepared this time. Will be pumped for it. Marseille also have about 8 different mobs, so will all be trying to outdo each other.

3. Throw in a country who has a growing hooligan problem (Russia), who havent been able to travel as much over the decades, who will have good numbers there, and will be looking to prove themselves this time.

4. Put it in a ground where there will be 30-40,000 neutral tickets available, so segregation will be a massive problem.

5. But a piece of tarpaulin between 20,000 Russians and 5-10,000 English in a neutral section.

6. Put no riot police (CRS) in the buffer inbetween them, and just put "stewards" in there instead.

There is no excuse for the hooliganism, but to create a tinderbox for them is massively negligent by UEFA, but there not arsed. As long as they get the UEFA family sorted for tickets and hotels, they dont care. Lots of things the other night had hallmarks of Heysel, they were just lucky it was in a modern stadium.
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Some great points there.

Are the venues decided before the teams are drawn? Or is this something decided afterwards?
 
Liverbirdie said:
We're talking UEFA here though.

1. 1998 - massive hooligan problems involving England fans in Marseille, particularly.

2. Local hooligan gangs wont be wanting the same happening again, more prepared this time. Will be pumped for it. Marseille also have about 8 different mobs, so will all be trying to outdo each other.

3. Throw in a country who has a growing hooligan problem (Russia), who havent been able to travel as much over the decades, who will have good numbers there, and will be looking to prove themselves this time.

4. Put it in a ground where there will be 30-40,000 neutral tickets available, so segregation will be a massive problem.

5. But a piece of tarpaulin between 20,000 Russians and 5-10,000 English in a neutral section.

6. Put no riot police (CRS) in the buffer inbetween them, and just put "stewards" in there instead.

There is no excuse for the hooliganism, but to create a tinderbox for them is massively negligent by UEFA, but there not arsed. As long as they get the UEFA family sorted for tickets and hotels, they dont care. Lots of things the other night had hallmarks of Heysel, they were just lucky it was in a modern stadium.
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Some excellent points and with the Russian government allegedly condoning it according to some sources, this will happen again, no doubt on Thursday and no amount of pleading by Hodgson or Rooney will make a blind bit of difference. I don't think the English idiots will instigate it but they will respond and I fear that's all UEFA will need to see
 
Aren't the venues for the groups decided ahead of time and so once you know what group you are in, you know where you are playing. Certainly seem to remember that from the WC at least which is why we knew straight away we were in the jungle for the first game
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Aren't the venues for the groups decided ahead of time and so once you know what group you are in, you know where you are playing. Certainly seem to remember that from the WC at least which is why we knew straight away we were in the jungle for the first game
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The seeds get assigned to a chosen venue hence why we were seeded and sent to the middle of the jungle........
 
Guys,

You make some good points and obvious ones! It's a fact that prior and during a tournament that the English press/media will 'big up' your team and the other is that your fans (not all) will go fighting. Surely someone outwith GM can recognise this and come up with a plan, it's every time, this isn't a one off!

I liked the guy Hoggson and Rooney doing the tv appeal asking for peace but where was Cameron? Not quite a public apology but I suppose it's a start.
 
BREAKING: UEFA hand Russia suspended disqualification from Euro 2016 plus 150,000 Euro fine for crowd disturbances inside Stade Velodrome

 
Hickory_Hacker said:
I liked the guy Hoggson and Rooney doing the tv appeal asking for peace but where was Cameron? Not quite a public apology but I suppose it's a start.
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Why - it doesnt make a blind bit of difference to the hooligans, who will still cause trouble anyway, no matter who appeals to their better nature.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Everyone looking forward to the next World Cup in errrr Russia? Why on earth would you travel to that tournament?
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Exactly! Least the next Euros is based in 13 different countries I believe. Seems the only way to prevent the crowd trouble really.

Both semis and final at Wembley too!:thup:
 
Liverbirdie said:
Why - it doesnt make a blind bit of difference to the hooligans, who will still cause trouble anyway, no matter who appeals to their better nature.
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Maybe we should just live in hope that these English thugs just vanish :thup:

I'm just doing a catch up on the world news and there's a guy called Chris Booth sounding a bit cheesed off that his son picked up a 2 month jail sentence :rofl:

What's he greetin about, he brings up a thug and he gets caught! Some folk have no shame ... Happy Father's Day :D
 
Hickory_Hacker said:
Maybe we should just live in hope that these English thugs just vanish :thup:

I'm just doing a catch up on the world news and there's a guy called Chris Booth sounding a bit cheesed off that his son picked up a 2 month jail sentence :rofl:

What's he greetin about, he brings up a thug and he gets caught! Some folk have no shame ... Happy Father's Day :D
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Do you mean the same Chris Booth son who has been jailed for throwing a plastic cup as he ran away from Russian fans throwing glass ashtrays at him and his friends - the police it seems didn't want to arrest the guys throwing the heavy glass ashtrays which could kill someone but instead the plastic glass which went about 6 foot - at least France's plastic glasses are safe now
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Do you mean the same Chris Booth son who has been jailed for throwing a plastic cup as he ran away from Russian fans throwing glass ashtrays at him and his friends - the police it seems didn't want to arrest the guys throwing the heavy glass ashtrays which could kill someone but instead the plastic glass which went about 6 foot - at least France's plastic glasses are safe now
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Yeah that one ... 2 months wasn't enough 🤔 Proud moment, is his dad still bubbling? Mum happy?
 
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