Trouble at the Euros

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Rather than get lost in Euro 2016 thread I thought I'd start a different thread on this horrific problem.

What is the solution?

Some of the footage and scenes available online are sickening to watch.
It is obvious that some supporters (if you can call them that) are intent on causing trouble. These are from more than one country so cant all be targeted at the "English".

What is it with soccer that brings out the worst in "some" fans behaviour?

I imagine if I'm in bar and it gets attached by whoever, I'm going to firstly try to get out of there and if not defend myself ( don't fancy my chances much :rofl:)

This thread is not about blame but more what is the solution?

I just hope that the Irish can avoid all the trouble and leave the tournament as winners and the best supporters. :ears:
 
Some videos surfaced last night of the Northern Irish fans fighting with Polish fans, so it seems it's spreading!

Unfortunately I don't believe there is a way to stop this sort of behaviour. You can hand out football banning orders to the idiots who get arrested....but there'll be endless amounts willing to take their place.
 
Have to look at a ban for any team whose fans are found to cause violence. That will put a stop to it.
 
Also been trouble with Fans of English clubs whilst playing away in Europe this season.
Let's just ban everybody.
 
snell said:
Some videos surfaced last night of the Northern Irish fans fighting with Polish fans, so it seems it's spreading!

Unfortunately I don't believe there is a way to stop this sort of behaviour. You can hand out football banning orders to the idiots who get arrested....but there'll be endless amounts willing to take their place.
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NI and Polish fans weren't fighting each other, they were both attacked by locals. It blew over pretty quickly.
 
In this day and age especially inside football stadiums with the CCTV available if they are arrested for fighting send them down for a along time.
 
There was a video getting shown around last night of the French police hammering a guy lying on the ground. The guy was on the deck covering up and there must have been at least 20 different French cops all leathering him with batons and kicking him as they ran past.
Shocking.
Unfortunately a solution to football violence seems a long way away. From a lot of the videos iv seen over the past few days a lot of the people involved seem to be just general fans and not actual hardcore hooligans.
England should maybe let some of the fans play, they can hit a French copper with a plastic chair from 30 yards, England can't hit the target from 6.
 
BBC are reporting that UEFA have now opened disciplinary proceedings after what happened last night within the stadium. They're also looking into claims of racism.

How on earth have these got the World Cup!!
 
Footage from France makes the recent trouble between Hibs and Rangers fans at Hampden look like handbags (apart from the player assaults), perhaps the problem lies partly with the host country as some of their own people are intent on fighting visiting fans, that hasnt happended in other tournaments so much and given France's recent terrorism problems is really surprising - also they have not organised or policed it correctly so far, seems like its reactionary responses rather than proactive prevention, little segregation enforced, bars could have limited opening near grounds as thousand of young men from different 'tribes' drinking for hours in the summer heat is not a good thing......but what else are they going to do??
Personally I expect trouble at any European tournament, doesn't surprise me and doesn't detract too much from the matches as tv doesn't show the trouble, last night I enjoyed a terrific match in England/Russia and heard the bang near the end but the tv cameras just stayed on the game so didn't see the Russians then charging the English. Afraid there's a lot of hardcore English wont like the fact they've been 'chased', a loss of honour which they'll want to correct, could kick off big style.:ooo:
Hooliganism seems to be on the rise again, young men are young men, some need the gang mob violence/bravado that following football, as the working class game, offers, it's here to stay.:mad: i wouldn't travel to any football tournament personally. Russia should never have the World Cup imo.
Read a book many moons ago called 'Bloody Casuals' by Jay Allen who was leader of the infamous Aberdeen casuals of the 1980s, it references all the psychology/behavioural science and reasoning for hooligansm when simply many young men just want a ruck with the excitement and the camaraderie that the organising of and then actual fighting brings.
Anyone see the Piers Morgan tweet about this...classic response by someone called Lee.:smirk:
 
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I'm not sure what workable methods there are to stop the violence - you can ban loads of fans but then the sons of those banned start to become involved

The countries involved could be banned from International football but then would expect the ones looking for trouble would still travel to tournaments looking for trouble.

As has been said it doesn't happen in any other sport and the excuses are always the same - you can see from the videos and reports that the blame sits firmly with every team that is involved - far too many looking to blame locals and police and oppo fans. Thugs looking for justification for them causing damage and harm to other people.

Ban the teams for the next tournament and if it happens again make it three more comps - and ban people from being near a football match or tournament for life.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I'm not sure what workable methods there are to stop the violence - you can ban loads of fans but then the sons of those banned start to become involved

The countries involved could be banned from International football but then would expect the ones looking for trouble would still travel to tournaments looking for trouble.

As has been said it doesn't happen in any other sport and the excuses are always the same - you can see from the videos and reports that the blame sits firmly with every team that is involved - far too many looking to blame locals and police and oppo fans. Thugs looking for justification for them causing damage and harm to other people.

Ban the teams for the next tournament and if it happens again make it three more comps - and ban people from being near a football match or tournament for life.
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And what happens to the locals who are a massive part of this current issue?
 
Banning fans is as much good a chocolate fire guard. Look at the arrest rates. I'm not singling out England for any reason other than the arrest stats, there's been about 6 arrests and I think I'm exaggerating there. Compete that with the amount of fans you've seen getting up to no good on the various videos being shown.
 
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