Neilds
Assistant Pro
And in English?
Traitors UK 4 - probably spoilers
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larmen
Head Pro
He knows who is what based on how the producers are showing it to the audience. The contestants could work it out the same way.
In earlier series the people on the chopping block came to breakfast last, that way they should be known as faithful.
This year he said that the last 2 in cages are faithful because that keeps the tension for the TV viewer.
He also said before that the traitors are always a diverse group. For example in celebrities, when all women but Kat had been killed of or banished it was clear she is a traitor as the bbc can’t go with an all men group.
Basically, if you know how TV works you get more out of the setup than the actual contestant behaviour.
In earlier series the people on the chopping block came to breakfast last, that way they should be known as faithful.
This year he said that the last 2 in cages are faithful because that keeps the tension for the TV viewer.
He also said before that the traitors are always a diverse group. For example in celebrities, when all women but Kat had been killed of or banished it was clear she is a traitor as the bbc can’t go with an all men group.
Basically, if you know how TV works you get more out of the setup than the actual contestant behaviour.
Ross61
Challenge Tour Pro
At the round table when they have all locked in their vote. The first contestant to reveal their vote it is always set to make the voting the most tension. Quite often when the voting starts it looks like someone is going to get voted off but it then swings onto another who actually goes. I assume there are cameras watching each person as the write on the slate to to work out the best starting place.
D-S
Well-known member
Jo Marler’s thought process showed some understanding of the Producers’ needs too. His ‘Big Dog’ theory was along these lines. All the contestants have studied earlier seasons (there are enough of them out there) so they should be using this to inform their game play.
D-S
Well-known member
I did like Richard Osman or Marina’s point that there are two envelopes by the murdered/banished players seat in the Uncloaked show when the Traitors are revealed to them but we have only seen them open one.
Is it to do with the ‘Family Tree’ and relationships between some contestants? - we already have seen mother / daughter and Boyfriend / girlfriend.
Is it to do with the ‘Family Tree’ and relationships between some contestants? - we already have seen mother / daughter and Boyfriend / girlfriend.
RichA
Well-known member
I don’t know. We quite often find ourselves asking whether any of them have actually watched the show before, their grasp of the producers requirement for cliffhangers being a bit lacking.
For example, if any situation leaves two players in a situation where one will be murdered, like Maz and Reece in the cages, then you can bank the fact that both of those last two are faithfuls.
But then it’s the psyche tactics that make it so watchable. As others have said, if you are certain you know who the traitors are then the worst thing you can do is get rid of them because they’ll be replaced with someone new. And the remaining traitors will kill you the next day.
But if you keep it to yourself you’ll likely be accused of being a quiet one who’s probably a traitor and voted out.
Best tactic is probably to be a nice and easily led ditherer and hope you don’t get murdered for shock value, to shake things up; which they do so often that it shouldn’t really be shocking anymore.
larmen
Head Pro
What was H’s play? Here are some vague things, trust me!
She was right, but based on chance not evidence.
The evidence she had is that Fiona must have known, but didn’t think that far.
She was right, but based on chance not evidence.
The evidence she had is that Fiona must have known, but didn’t think that far.
Beedee
Assistant Pro
Really didn't understand the big argument of "If you vote me out and I'm a faithful then it must be X". Her only evidence seemed to be "cos I'm always right". She was correct but all she presented was anecdote and opinion. Aren't barristers supposed to understand evidence.
larmen
Head Pro
That’s how Ross got banished
Neilds
Assistant Pro
She was only right about Rachel. Her other 2 names were wrong and not sure where she got the theory about 4 or 5 traitors from.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
I’m really surprised that nobody called Rachel out at the round table when she announced that she had undergone FBI training before the show so she could profile the other players. Where did she pull that 
bomb from?
bomb from?D-S
Well-known member
The last time anyone pushed the self destruct button like H did yesterday was on the recent’ish Traitors NZ who one contestant voted for himself at the banishment, it was almost similar last night.
Ross61
Challenge Tour Pro
I had already read about the training on the bbc traitors pages before the first episodeI’m really surprised that nobody called Rachel out at the round table when she announced that she had undergone FBI training before the show so she could profile the other players. Where did she pull that
If you were a Faithful, then what would your plan be?
I love human behaviour. If I'm not a Traitor, I'm going to be the best Faithful that you’ve ever seen. I started to look at an ex-FBI agent who does online classes – so looking at micro expressions and how to really read people, even their swallow and their blink rate. I think I would be a dangerous Faithful and it would just be a case of keeping all of my suspicions a little bit quieter.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
They all think like you, and probably came into the game with a plan pretty much the same, that most throw out the window when the television cameras are on them.
4LEX
Well-known member
Amanda, Fiona and Harriott literally imploded under their own self importance. Unable to keep their emotions in check and acted totally irrationally.
It's a bad tactic to accuse anyone at breakfast because it gives them the whole day to come up with their own defence and sell it to the others.
It's a bad tactic to accuse anyone at breakfast because it gives them the whole day to come up with their own defence and sell it to the others.
4LEX
Well-known member
I’m really surprised that nobody called Rachel out at the round table when she announced that she had undergone FBI training before the show so she could profile the other players. Where did she pull that
Yeah, that was crazy and will probably come back to haunt her! It'll either get exposed as a lie under questioning or it will mark her as someone to watch and banish. The only way it would work is if she was a Faithful and had a good record at banishing Traitors, which hasn't or won't happen.
Bazz
Q-School Graduate
Had all day and came up with the FBI stuff. An hour longer and she'd have thrown in a 121 with Jack Bauer too.
D-S
Well-known member
So what’s in the other envelope in the fireside Traitor reveals in Uncloaked?
pendodave
Tour Rookie
I was rather sad to see Sam go. Although he seemed a bit of a dick early on, he kind of mellowed on me.
Still, at least it made for a relaxed and amusing Uncloaked. The previous 2 with the lunatic harridans were pretty tough going.
I'm curious about the next step. I think I'd kill Jessie and take my chances. I get the feeling that Rachel and Stephen have worked out who the useful idiots are and will manipulate them accordingly.
They ask have the memories of goldfish though, so so knows.
Still, at least it made for a relaxed and amusing Uncloaked. The previous 2 with the lunatic harridans were pretty tough going.
I'm curious about the next step. I think I'd kill Jessie and take my chances. I get the feeling that Rachel and Stephen have worked out who the useful idiots are and will manipulate them accordingly.
They ask have the memories of goldfish though, so so knows.
larmen
Head Pro
Rumour says it’s revealing secret relationships of people, like Netty is Roxy’s mum, Ross is Ellie’s boyfriend, and other relationships we do not know about yet.
