Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Have you considered that if you change the word "dismissal" to the word "support" in that sentence then that accusation could equally be levelled at yourself? :thup:

Answers nothing. I have concerns and questions, rather than get answers I get my post flung back in my face. Pointless.

So you going to explain May's volte face on Leave and also who will benefit from the EU interference in our general election. How about just having a go.

 

[MarkE]

what about answering the question on who May thinks the EU are trying to influence in our GE - and why?

I should imagine that any influence exerted on the GE by the EU, would be to whip up anti May feelings, thereby hopefully decreasing her margin of victory, thereby weakening her negotiation powers on brexit. The bigger the majority the stronger May will be, knowing there's little chance of any agreements being voted against in Parliament.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Answers nothing. I have concerns and questions, rather than get answers I get my post flung back in my face. Pointless.

So you going to explain May's volte face on Leave and also who will benefit from the EU interference in our general election. How about just having a go.

A tactic you are more than happy to employ when it suits you.

 

[Hobbit]

A tactic you are more than happy to employ when it suits you.

I'm shocked you believe he dodges questions!

 

[ColchesterFC]

Answers nothing. I have concerns and questions, rather than get answers I get my post flung back in my face. Pointless.

So you going to explain May's volte face on Leave and also who will benefit from the EU interference in our general election. How about just having a go.

With your track record of avoiding answering direct questions I don't think that you are in a position to criticise or start lecturing anyone else for not answering.

Theresa May as leader of the Tory party is doing what the electorate voted for when they chose to vote to leave the EU. Her personal feelings on the matter are secondary to that. You seem to have already decided what the outcome of the negotiations will be, with the result being a "hard Brexit". I'm prepared to wait and see the results of the negotiations before I start criticising or congratulating the negotiators.

I would agree with Hobbit that the EU would feel that their negotiating position would be stronger against a government that had no chance or very little chance of getting a "hard Brexit" through parliament. Therefore if there was interference from the EU in the election I believe a large Tory majority would be the least desirable outcome to them.

Now perhaps you could answer the questions that were put to you many days ago.....

Do you think that the UK will end up actually paying 100 billion euros, that the EU are currently demanding, to leave the EU?

Do you think that it would be fair for the EU to refuse to share assists that as a nett contributor over many years the UK have paid towards?

Aren't these two things just the EU trying to show how tough they are rather than factual statements on how things will turn out?

 

[Blue in Munich]

With your track record of avoiding answering direct questions I don't think that you are in a position to criticise or start lecturing anyone else for not answering.

Theresa May as leader of the Tory party is doing what the electorate voted for when they chose to vote to leave the EU. Her personal feelings on the matter are secondary to that. You seem to have already decided what the outcome of the negotiations will be, with the result being a "hard Brexit". I'm prepared to wait and see the results of the negotiations before I start criticising or congratulating the negotiators.

I would agree with Hobbit that the EU would feel that their negotiating position would be stronger against a government that had no chance or very little chance of getting a "hard Brexit" through parliament. Therefore if there was interference from the EU in the election I believe a large Tory majority would be the least desirable outcome to them.

Now perhaps you could answer the questions that were put to you many days ago.....

Do you think that the UK will end up actually paying 100 billion euros, that the EU are currently demanding, to leave the EU?

Do you think that it would be fair for the EU to refuse to share assists that as a nett contributor over many years the UK have paid towards?

Aren't these two things just the EU trying to show how tough they are rather than factual statements on how things will turn out?

I wouldn't hold your breath……..

 

[SocketRocket]

Answers nothing. I have concerns and questions, rather than get answers I get my post flung back in my face. Pointless.

So you going to explain May's volte face on Leave and also who will benefit from the EU interference in our general election. How about just having a go.

Why don't you be honest with yourself and us. You want Brexit to fail and you are making comments that show you cannot give any credence whatsoever to May or the Negotiators. In your mind a successful Brexit would be a disaster as your will is so set against it. There is a great difference between concern for the outcome and and a desire for it to fail.

 

[IanM]

New French President walks out to "Ode to Joy" rather than "La Marseillaise." Pretty much tells you all you need to know.

 

[User62651]

New French President walks out to "Ode to Joy" rather than "La Marseillaise." Pretty much tells you all you need to know.

Which is?

France chose, you're disappointed but why not respect that decision if you're asking remainers here to respect leave? Democracy and all that.

There is no domino effect of right wing populism in Europe, UK is now cast adrift of the European family of nations in a weak position to negotiate a new trading deal. But we'll all be better off for it as we'll control immigration which will help overstretched public services and have our sovereignty back apparently. Sovereignty won't pay the bills when we're paid less and all our EU imports are tarriffed alas.

Time will tell (along with no end of political spin).

 

[Hobbit]

New French President walks out to "Ode to Joy" rather than "La Marseillaise." Pretty much tells you all you need to know.

Not sure I need to know that at all. I might want us to stay in the EU but I couldn't care less what political statement he's making by having that played. If I were to have an observation I'd say its divisive and disrespectful of the 30+% that didn't vote for him. At least playing the La Maseillaise would have been accepted by both sides.

 

[IanM]

Which is?

Which is??? NOT the French national anthem.... spookily.

No disappointment........ I fully respect the French vote. One criticism of Macron is that he is an EU Puppet... so he dispels that how? Walks out to the EU Anthem. Hmmm why would a Trading Cooperative need an National Anthem?

 

[Hobbit]

Well it's nice to see at least one country reject nasty right wing politics that leads to increased division, intolerance and a more fractured society. Vive La France.

Don't suppose we could learn a lesson from them.....

http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/03/rise-nationalists-guide-europe-s-far-right-parties

Think of where Europe was politically 10 years ago, and where they are now. Worryingly, the Far Right is growing across Europe. Maybe if the EU recognises that, before its too late, it might actually listen to message the electorate has been trying to get across for a few years and act on it.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Which is??? NOT the French national anthem.... spookily.

No disappointment........ I fully respect the French vote. One criticism of Macron is that he is an EU Puppet... so he dispels that how? Walks out to the EU Anthem. Hmmm why would a Trading Cooperative need an National Anthem?

Even the Champions league has an anthem. People like anthems.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not sure I need to know that at all. I might want us to stay in the EU but I couldn't care less what political statement he's making by having that played. If I were to have an observation I'd say its divisive and disrespectful of the 30+% that didn't vote for him. At least playing the La Maseillaise would have been accepted by both sides.

Actually, when all candidates were on the table around 75% of French people did not vote for him. It is only when it got down to him and Le Pen that his share increased. Plenty of people didn't want him but they didn't want Le Pen even more.

I'm staggered that he did not come out to the French anthem, it is a default thing to do. It unifies.

 

[User62651]

Actually, when all candidates were on the table around 75% of French people did not vote for him. It is only when it got down to him and Le Pen that his share increased. Plenty of people didn't want him but they didn't want Le Pen even more.

I'm staggered that he did not come out to the French anthem, it is a default thing to do. It unifies.

Marseillaise is controversial, hated in parts of France, doesn't unify as you suggest. Ours doesn't unify here either - religous, monarchic and anti-Scottish all in one and a sleep-inducing dirge to boot.

Didn't Clinton rather successfully use a Fleetwood Mac number for his winning turn?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Maxfli - I didn't know that. It just seems that whenever I hear it played everyone seems very passionate, whether at sporting events or on political occasions.

I don't like ours but frankly no one cares about verse 2 and beyond other than people looking to find fault. It is never sung, it is out of date, it is from another age. Flower of Scotland harks back to the same era so there is no high ground there to be taken. No point doing a new UK anthem until we find out who is going to be in it though!

 

[Old Skier]

Marseillaise is controversial, hated in parts of France, doesn't unify as you suggest. Ours doesn't unify here either - religous, monarchic and anti-Scottish all in one and a sleep-inducing dirge to boot.

Didn't Clinton rather successfully use a Fleetwood Mac number for his winning turn?

Anit Scottish - when did that happen and if you want sleep inducing, Scotland had the answer. Now if you want a real anthem us Welsh will sort you.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

According the BBC Scotland and the Scottish media it was a 'crushing, battered, hammered' [choose one of their standard three words] defeat for Macon

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Loved it that Macron strode out to the strains of 'Ode to Joy' - with the EU flag fluttering in the background

And so dear PM. Good luck negotiating with President Macron.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I should imagine that any influence exerted on the GE by the EU, would be to whip up anti May feelings, thereby hopefully decreasing her margin of victory, thereby weakening her negotiation powers on brexit. The bigger the majority the stronger May will be, knowing there's little chance of any agreements being voted against in Parliament.

But the EU wants May to have the biggest majority possible as that gives May the best chance of marginalising the hard eurosceptics - thereby increasing the possibility of their being able to negotiate a less than most severe Brexit with the UK. It would be counter-productive for the EU to try and undermine May and the Brexiteers, au contraire they want a May with an increased majority, not a reduced.