Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[Lord Tyrion]

First step, of course, will be to get the necessary 2/3rds vote in The Commons! I'm not sure whether it was wise for Corbyn to commit to backing the election! Assuming the polls are even somewhere near correct, Labour likely to lose a significant number of seats and he is likely to have to resign, or at least fight (another) leadership battle!

Politicians by default have to say they are always ready to fight an election. To do otherwise would suggest cowardice to the electorate. This will sail through.

TM is not a debater or an orator but let's face it we have had a few of them lately and none have left with people wanting them back. She will concentrate on being steady, avoiding confrontation and by looking like a safe pair of hands. Oh yes, the others are all a bit rubbish as well so that helps.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I wonder when the 19 English Chief Constables will publish the results of any charges brought against the 29 Tory MP's involved in the 2015 general election scandal.

My guess is July 2017.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

You would hope that the use of Battle Buses will be more closely monitored and restricted this time round.

 

[Foxholer]

Politicians by default have to say they are always ready to fight an election. To do otherwise would suggest cowardice to the electorate. This will sail through.
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I agree!

That doesn't alter the wisdom/foolishness of agreeing to it though!

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TM is not a debater or an orator but let's face it we have had a few of them lately and none have left with people wanting them back. She will concentrate on being steady, avoiding confrontation and by looking like a safe pair of hands. Oh yes, the others are all a bit rubbish as well so that helps.

Cameron was an excellent 'debater', though not a great orator! May is currently too much a 'message pusher' and 'reader', though that may improve. She still wollops Corbyn in either area though! Dennis Skinner could well have made a 'better' (though equally unelectable) leader than Corbyn! - Certainly a more 'interesting' one!!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

A two year old could wallop Corbyn, it is not a challenge. Skinner is a wonderful speaker. One of the breed like Tony Benn. Cracking local MP's, good people to hold govts to account but should never, ever be in positions of real power.

TM needs to go on a speaking course. She is too stiff, not natural. I find her uncomfortable to watch when she tries to go on the offensive or deliver a party political message. She is fine when she is giving a straight message but limited otherwise. Luckily for her she does not get exposed as Jezza is so poor. I can certainly understand why she would not want to go near a televised debate.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I agree!

That doesn't alter the wisdom/foolishness of agreeing to it though!



Cameron was an excellent 'debater', though not a great orator! May is currently too much a 'message pusher' and 'reader', though that may improve. She still wollops Corbyn in either area though! Dennis Skinner could well have made a 'better' (though equally unelectable) leader than Corbyn! - Certainly a more 'interesting' one!!

I think Boris Johnson, Dave Davis and Liam Fox work well when they are speaking in large gatherings, some may call them right mass debaters.....

 

[SocketRocket]

I think Boris Johnson, Dave Davis and Liam Fox work well when they are speaking in large gatherings, some may call them right mass debaters.....

Why do you find it necessary to resort to sarcasm in your posts. When you post sensibly you make some good points and have the ability to state them well. This sort of nonsense is the lowest form of whit. Funny sometimes but in your case very overdone.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Why do you find it necessary to resort to sarcasm in your posts. When you post sensibly you make some good points and have the ability to state them well. This sort of nonsense is the lowest form of whit. Funny sometimes but in your case very overdone.

Lighten up, it was hilarious and truthful at the same time.

Meanwhile back at Westminster our PM is such a poor debater that even Yvette Cooper can put her in a box.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Why do you find it necessary to resort to sarcasm in your posts. When you post sensibly you make some good points and have the ability to state them well. This sort of nonsense is the lowest form of whit. Funny sometimes but in your case very overdone.

Because people making the same point over and over and over and over again in a bid to have the last word in a pseudo intellectual serious dull way is mostly tedious beyond belief? Either that or my mummy didn't give me enough hugs when I was young.

 

[drdel]

Sensible timing otherwise there would be a GE right at a crucial time for negotiations which would weaken the UK position.

I'm amazed at the vitriol that some posts show for a person they don't know!

 

[Hacker Khan]

Sensible timing otherwise there would be a GE right at a crucial time for negotiations which would weaken the UK position.

I'm amazed at the vitriol that some posts show for a person they don't know!

I know, most of them have never met Delc...

 

[SocketRocket]

Lighten up, it was hilarious and truthful at the same time.

Meanwhile back at Westminster our PM is such a poor debater that even Yvette Cooper can put her in a box.

Lighten up yourself. I guess the difference between him and you is he is capable of intelligent posts.

 

[Tashyboy]

My issue though Tashyboy is I think you're right, but they selfish reasons for the Tories, she is not calling it for the good of the Country, there is nothing new yesterday that she didn't know a week or a month ago.
If she does a good job as PM and the tories as a government then why worry about the next GE in 3 yrs. She has a majority now so there are no need to scaremonger about doubts leaving the EU, if that was issue why not call the GE before triggering Article 50.

Exactly,and I nearly started my post by saying
" what does she know that we don't ".
And am sure she knows something.

 

[SocketRocket]

Because people making the same point over and over and over and over again in a bid to have the last word in a pseudo intellectual serious dull way is mostly tedious beyond belief? Either that or my mummy didn't give me enough hugs when I was young.

What difference does it make to you if others want to have a long and even repeated debate, surely that's up to them. Reading it is not compulsory so there is no need for anyone to be offended by it or to feel the need to contribute by using sarcasm in a pseudo intellectual manner to mask an inverted feeling of superiority. Don't get me wrong I like a bit of humor, a bit of quick whit and repartee, the old double entendre and even a mild dose of sarcasm in the right places. You Sir just overdo it and as I have suggested this is a shame, whether it's a symptom of your upbringing I wouldn't dare to comment. Oh! wait a minute, that was a bit of sarcasm again, never mind I'll probably get the hang of it eventually.

 

[Hacker Khan]

What difference does it make to you if others want to have a long and even repeated debate, surely that's up to them. Reading it is not compulsory so there is no need for anyone to be offended by it or to feel the need to contribute by using sarcasm in a pseudo intellectual manner to mask an inverted feeling of superiority. Don't get me wrong I like a bit of humor, a bit of quick whit and repartee, the old double entendre and even a mild dose of sarcasm in the right places. You Sir just overdo it and as I have suggested this is a shame, whether it's a symptom of your upbringing I wouldn't dare to comment. Oh! wait a minute, that was a bit of sarcasm again, never mind I'll probably get the hang of it eventually.

Exactly, physician heal thyself....

 

[SocketRocket]

Exactly, physician heal thyself....

But I participate in "making the same point over and over and over and over again in a bid to have the last word in a pseudo intellectual serious dull way " and don't drone on about others that do the same, if I didn't like the thread I would keep out of it, bit like the way I do with the Football thread. My only beef with it is where people post that others are posting on it , if you get my drift. Nothing to heal here old boy!

 

[Hobbit]

Like it or not Tim Farron is now potentially the political voice for a great many people across UK as pro UK and proEU and a centrist view. He's not a moron, he has conviction. Heard him a lot over the past couple of years and imo speaks a lot of sense. I hope they win plenty seats back at Conservative expense. A strong opposition is essential for democracy and Labour aren't providing it.

Just goes to show how political opinions differ. I was chuffed when he became leader but I now find him arrogant and condescending. LibDems have often been my default position for my vote. No chance whilst Farron is there.

 

[delc]

Just goes to show how political opinions differ. I was chuffed when he became leader but I now find him arrogant and condescending. LibDems have often been my default position for my vote. No chance whilst Farron is there.

Seems like a nice enough chap to me! 😀

 

[SocketRocket]

Seems like a nice enough chap to me! 

Golum. Lost his 'Precious'

 

[PhilTheFragger]

But I participate in "making the same point over and over and over and over again in a bid to have the last word in a pseudo intellectual serious dull way "

In the past , other members have been sanctioned for repeatedly making the same point ad nauseum , so please don't.

By all means have a full debate , but continual repetition kills the thread, so agree to disagree and move on.

Thank you