Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[Old Skier]

It appears the SNP Leaders not up for it either, turning down opportunities to appear on the tele and radio and her personal ratings dropping like a stone. Perhaps she should go to the job interviews if there are jobs going.

 

[User62651]

Thread is about Theresa May, she called this General Election early for her own benefit, feeble attempt at deflection to Sturgeon on lack of appearances is weak. Seems May started out quite confidently and thought she could campaign alone but it unravelled on her somewhat, that unravelling has forced a rethink on public engagement and it would seem clear her advisors are making it less about her and instead just going, true to form, project fear on Corbyn and to a lesser extent those you could coaliton themselves with Labour.
Where have all the cabinet ministers been this campaign? - have seen a little of Fallon, Davis and Rudd but very little/none of Johnson, Hammond, Greening, Truss, Hunt, Green, Grayling, Leadsom, Mundell, Patel and others.
I think there is disassociation with May from her own team in case things go badly next week, no-one looking to stick their head out over the parapet at this stage, each looking after themselves.
May has been found out. Not PM material.
Not saying Corbyn is either.

 

[IanM]

Bit like the US election.

Both main candidates are poor. That's what you get with career politics

 

[Old Skier]

Thread is about Theresa May, she called this General Election early for her own benefit, feeble attempt at deflection to Sturgeon on lack of appearances is weak. Seems May started out quite confidently and thought she could campaign alone but it unravelled on her somewhat, that unravelling has forced a rethink on public engagement and it would seem clear her advisors are making it less about her and instead just going, true to form, project fear on Corbyn and to a lesser extent those you could coaliton themselves with Labour.
Where have all the cabinet ministers been this campaign? - have seen a little of Fallon, Davis and Rudd but very little/none of Johnson, Hammond, Greening, Truss, Hunt, Green, Grayling, Leadsom, Mundell, Patel and others.
I think there is disassociation with May from her own team in case things go badly next week, no-one looking to stick their head out over the parapet at this stage, each looking after themselves.
May has been found out. Not PM material.
Not saying Corbyn is either.

Not deflecting at all as I have made the point that I think both are looking shaky in other posts. Jut not sure why someone fawns over its leader but continually has a go at another when they both have the same faults. But that's a Nat for you.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Aye, whatever happened to Team May?

Morphed into Team Mayhem perhaps.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Where have all the cabinet ministers been this campaign? - have seen a little of Fallon, Davis and Rudd but very little/none of Johnson, Hammond, Greening, Truss, Hunt, Green, Grayling, Leadsom, Mundell, Patel and others.
I think there is disassociation with May from her own team in case things go badly next week, no-one looking to stick their head out over the parapet at this stage, each looking after themselves.

A bit like May in the EU referendum really.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Bit like the US election.

Both main candidates are poor. That's what you get with career politics

You could argue that Corbyn is many things but not really a career politician. I'd argue he is actually the opposite, a person who has stuck to his values and principles over the years and has not compromised them to get into power. Whether people agree with those values is another thing, but bit unfair to call him one IMHO.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Thread is about Theresa May, she called this General Election early for her own benefit, feeble attempt at deflection to Sturgeon on lack of appearances is weak. Seems May started out quite confidently and thought she could campaign alone but it unravelled on her somewhat, that unravelling has forced a rethink on public engagement and it would seem clear her advisors are making it less about her and instead just going, true to form, project fear on Corbyn and to a lesser extent those you could coaliton themselves with Labour.
Where have all the cabinet ministers been this campaign? - have seen a little of Fallon, Davis and Rudd but very little/none of Johnson, Hammond, Greening, Truss, Hunt, Green, Grayling, Leadsom, Mundell, Patel and others.
I think there is disassociation with May from her own team in case things go badly next week, no-one looking to stick their head out over the parapet at this stage, each looking after themselves.
May has been found out. Not PM material.
Not saying Corbyn is either.

I just think that the tories realised that those other people mentioned do not play that well with the electorate. So as you say they decided to lead with TMay and her unique brand of debate and public engagement. Remember at the start of the process TMay had quite a big personal approval rating. But now that seems to have taken a bit of a battering with all the failures to debate anything. But not sure if wheeling out say Leadsom, Hammond or Bojo will energise anyone and convert any undecideds to the tory cause.

 

[patricks148]

It appears the SNP Leaders not up for it either, turning down opportunities to appear on the tele and radio and her personal ratings dropping like a stone. Perhaps she should go to the job interviews if there are jobs going.

She isn't running for PM though is she?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

BoJo is back...

Sorry - our esteemed and respected near and far Foreign Secretary is back on our screens adding intelligent clout to the debate as he waves an ice cream about - erm...

 

[drdel]

My father drummed into me that a good indication of a coward was a person who would not say, to a persons face, things they were only brave enough to say behind their backs or out of earshot!

I just wonder how many of the keyboard warriors fail this test.

After almost 600 posts the Theresa May (and many others) have been the focus of rude name calling rather than a distillation of her capacity as PM.

 

[Hacker Khan]

My father drummed into me that a good indication of a coward was a person who would not say, to a persons face, things they were only brave enough to say behind their backs or out of earshot!

I just wonder how many of the keyboard warriors fail this test.

After almost 600 posts the Theresa May (and many others) have been the focus of rude name calling rather than a distillation of her capacity as PM.

Oh the irony when talking about Mrs 'No I won't appear on that and have a face to face debate with Corbyn but will instruct my friends in the press to say nasty things about him' May....

As for her capacity as a PM then aloof, weirdly mechanical, just reads of a pre-prepared script instead of engaging with people/interviewers, strange dogmatic views in areas such as education, opportunistic in calling the election despite saying she would not.

 

[drdel]

Oh the irony when talking about Mrs 'No I won't appear on that and have a face to face debate with Corbyn but will instruct my friends in the press to say nasty things about him' May....

I assume you're basing you comment on facts and have proof she 'instructed' the friendly press.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I assume you're basing you comment on facts and have proof she 'instructed' the friendly press.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Slack

I am sure she did not personally ring round all the editors, but I am also sure it is not a coincidence that all the right wing papers follow the same narrative today.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

If the Torys do badly in the election and I think it is fair to say that it isn't going to be the walkover that Tory HQ predicted. then I wouldn't be at all surprised to see TM resign, to be replaced by Amber Rudd.

TM for me is damaged now, she started well, but got greedy and this campaign has shown her limitations.
A woeful manifesto, full of more of the same cuts etc, whereas people are fed up of this, they need to be cut a bit of slack.
This is where Clever Corbyn has sneaked in with his money tree manifesto, which he will never be able to afford. but even if he can only do 1/4 of it, it will make people feel better off, if only for a time.

Im voting for the "Bring A Bottle " Party

 

[Old Skier]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Slack

I am sure she did not personally ring round all the editors, but I am also sure it is not a coincidence that all the right wing papers follow the same narrative today.

Only you and a couple of others on here seem to soak up the right wing press.

 

[jp5]

This is where Clever Corbyn has sneaked in with his money tree manifesto, which he will never be able to afford.

Amusing to see the "money tree" line when the only party with the uncosted money tree manifesto is indeed the Tories!

To be fair they did cost one policy - 6.7p per breakfast for schoolkids. How many cornflakes does 6.7p get you? :lol:

 

[SocketRocket]

Amusing to see the "money tree" line when the only party with the uncosted money tree manifesto is indeed the Tories!

To be fair they did cost one policy - 6.7p per breakfast for schoolkids. How many cornflakes does 6.7p get you? :lol:

So tell me what body (other than the labour party) has accepted his policies as affordable.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Amusing to see the "money tree" line when the only party with the uncosted money tree manifesto is indeed the Tories!

To be fair they did cost one policy - 6.7p per breakfast for schoolkids. How many cornflakes does 6.7p get you? :lol:

You are forgetting the milk & sugar


I thought I was giving a reasonably fair assessment of the current state of play,
do you have any idea what a huge hike in Corporation tax will do to business growth, R & D and the attractiveness of basing your business in the UK post Brexit when CT rates in Ireland are 12.5%.

It is going to impact on jobs which will decrease tax revenues and increase benefits etc
Corbyn might get his money in year 1, but years 2,3 and 4 are going to be a real struggle, the deficit which has been coming down, will increase again and after 5 years you will have to call in The Torys to sort it all out again.

I have crystal balls

 

[Old Skier]

Corbyn might get his money in year 1, but years 2,3 and 4 are going to be a real struggle, the deficit which has been coming down, will increase again and after 5 years you will have to call in The Torys to sort it all out again.

I have crystal balls

And you know the normal political cycle.