Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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Her reaction; or the aide's reaction? And as I said earlier, if that's the best that Nicky Morgan can bring to the debate then Theresa May has made the correct decision in excluding her from the process in my opinion.

And I suspect your real point was another cheap shot at the Brexit process.

Well you might suspect that but you'd be wrong.
 

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Which bits of it are not true then?

I need to know as I am clearly being misled by elements of the MSM
The whole thing is full of untruths and gross exaggerations. Just take the first line that Brexit will lead to an impoverished UK, do you honestly believe we will become impoverished?
 
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Which bits of it are not true then?

I need to know as I am clearly being misled by elements of the MSM

Bearing in mind your previous comments about Tory leaders, over a few years, would you really be quite so obviously hyperactive in this thread? Honestly, with your very obvious anti-Tory position in so many threads I think the only person with an issue is you.

You are are making a mountain out of a mole hill over ... what? Pants? Really?

The media have long since moved on over far more important issues, even though they will trivialise those for their 15 minutes of fame.

Leathers pants?! Is that the best you can do to highlight issues within the Conservative Party. Grow up and move on to real issues!
 

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Nope she is not! I've just caught the back end of PMQ and she was asked about our overseas aid budget doubling to 14 BILLION, and there is a short fall of 2 BILLION to help our own OAP.s and charity should begin at home. She dismissed this saying we should be patting ourselves of the back for supporting the less well off overseas. She just doesn't get it does she? She needs to have a look at why we voted for BREXIT! Charity begins at home FULL STOP you stupid idiot. She's missed a bit opportunity to make a great statement to appease the BREXITIERS and missed it. I fear for the future discussions. If Nige see this on TV he'll put his jacket back on (I hope) and get ready to run the country under UKIP.
 

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Overseas aid has nothing to do with Brexit.

Overseas aid should continue. But it is appropriate to challenge it going to places with Space Programmes, Missile Programmes and corrupt regimes who steal most of it before it gets to the needy,
No but it needs to be used with care and not squandered to questionable projects abroad when we have such shortfalls in things like Social Care
 

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In common with Bozza she strikes me as someone who's been promoted into a position well beyond their very ordinary abilities.

She appears to believe that because she holds the office then she is in control and in charge.

However for me the body language betrays her and exposes her as being well out of her depth.
 

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In common with Bozza she strikes me as someone who's been promoted into a position well beyond their very ordinary abilities.

She appears to believe that because she holds the office then she is in control and in charge.

However for me the body language betrays her and exposes her as being well out of her depth.

I have to agree. Though I wish her well as I do not see an alternative I would prefer.
 

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When she was promoted it smelt a bit fishy. All the big boys backing out leaving her as the only candidate. They obviously did not want to be involved with the very tricky Brexit negotiations and hung her out to dry. She does not come over well and does not appear to know what the hell is going on. We need to get on with this Brexit stuff and fire the first salvo on Christmas Eve, catching everyone on the back foot and making them panic and work over Christmas, LOL! Whilst sitting back and enjoying the turkey dinner and being ready with the next move. Well that's what I'd do.
 

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In common with Bozza she strikes me as someone who's been promoted into a position well beyond their very ordinary abilities.

She appears to believe that because she holds the office then she is in control and in charge.

However for me the body language betrays her and exposes her as being well out of her depth.

But then you could argue that for the vast majority of managers or leaders in the world. If most managers were completely honest they admit they got promoted on their technical abilities, and then a lot of it is bluffing your way through and making it look like you know what you are doing. ;)
 

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Well it looks like she's really got her work cut out now as Britain slips back to the pre-Thatcher era of union dminated strikes crippling the country, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38347283 riots in our prisons and of course our old friend Brexit. Add in the ever present terrorist threat, the economy and dealing with Trump going forward and you have to ask who would really be up to it. My personal wish is for her to get to grips with this union action, particularly the railway debacle that's making it impossible for people to go about their business, and has even cost some their jobs.
 

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Well it looks like she's really got her work cut out now as Britain slips back to the pre-Thatcher era of union dminated strikes crippling the country, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38347283 riots in our prisons and of course our old friend Brexit. Add in the ever present terrorist threat, the economy and dealing with Trump going forward and you have to ask who would really be up to it. My personal wish is for her to get to grips with this union action, particularly the railway debacle that's making it impossible for people to go about their business, and has even cost some their jobs.
Get some Eastern Europeans in to do the job at minimum wage. You know it makes sense!
 

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Well it looks like she's really got her work cut out now as Britain slips back to the pre-Thatcher era of union dminated strikes crippling the country, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38347283 riots in our prisons and of course our old friend Brexit. Add in the ever present terrorist threat, the economy and dealing with Trump going forward and you have to ask who would really be up to it. My personal wish is for her to get to grips with this union action, particularly the railway debacle that's making it impossible for people to go about their business, and has even cost some their jobs.

Comparisons are made between the railways and police and other key services where strikes are prohibited. Except railways are privatised so they are no longer 'public' services and employees Ts&Cs are at the whim of a private company needing to make a profit for it's shareholders. Renationalise the railways then perhaps we can treat railways as a critical public service.
 
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Comparisons are made between the railways and police and other key services where strikes are prohibited. Except railways are privatised so they are no longer 'public' services and employees Ts&Cs are at the whim of a private company needing to make a profit for it's shareholders. Renationalise the railways then perhaps we can treat railways as a critical public service.


I commuted by British Rail and remember dirty trains, not enough seats, late & cancelled services.

Much like today you might say and probably be right.

My point is there is no evidence to suggest that public ownership and State management would solve the problems of our rail network.
 

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I commuted by British Rail and remember dirty trains, not enough seats, late & cancelled services.

Much like today you might say and probably be right.

My point is there is no evidence to suggest that public ownership and State management would solve the problems of our rail network.

Maybe we need a German Dictator to make the trains run on time! They were pretty bad as British Rail and seem to have got worse since being privatised!
 
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Maybe we need a German Dictator to make the trains run on time! They were pretty bad as British Rail and seem to have got worse since being privatised!


Actually it was an Italian dictator (Mussolini) that was reputed to have got the trains running on time but history subsequently proved that it was a myth.
 

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My point is simply that I thought our governments avoid interfering in the business of private companies and that business succeed or fail according to the free market. And so if the government wants to ban or limit strikes in the railways as they are a crucial public service then they shouldn't have prvatised them - and they'd be better renationalising.
 

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My point is simply that I thought our governments avoid interfering in the business of private companies and that business succeed or fail according to the free market. And so if the government wants to ban or limit strikes in the railways as they are a crucial public service then they shouldn't have prvatised them - and they'd be better renationalising.

It's nearly Xmas and also Saturday night. Relax, have a pint and enjoy urself!!
 

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For a PM to publically broadcast details about a plan for future negotiations would be the most stupid thing imaginable. Everyone and his Uncle would poor over it and attempt to find holes, because that's what always happens when the not-actually-responsible-for-anything crowd always do.

More and more daft requests would be made for more and more detail.

Strategy comes first, the tactics for achieving these objectives will need to vary as responses and negotiations unfold.

Anyone who then judges the performance of the PM based on her failure to broadcast such a plan must be equally if not more stupid or simply blindly prejudiced.

Keeping her own council and making the Cabinet toe the line is exactly the sensible way to proceed.
 
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