Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[ColchesterFC]

You may be right. I don't know enough about WTO rules to know what impact it would have. I guess it comes down to how much the EU want for the "divorce" bill and what they want for access to the single market in terms of
costs, freedom of movement etc . Then they'll need to weigh that up against walking away with no deal.

 

[Old Skier]

Hard right Tory supporters seem to have gone into flat out denial mode now.
Quite amusing after all the waffle they have been spouting.
Their arrogance tank is now running on empty.

The good part is at least Tory voters don't hang as far to the right as Gengis Ghan and the SNP.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Wouldn't failure be a bad deal rather than no deal? Success would be a good deal. Anything less than that would be a degree of success. Failure would be to agree to a bad deal.

Do you have any idea what a 'no deal' scenario would do to NI, do you actually care?

 

[Hobbit]

When you say a "bad deal", do you really think that the EU would be so hard in their negotiations they would offer terms worse than the WTO? Why would they do that, when clearly if they do, the UK would say "no you're ok, we'll have WTO". That would be a completely nonsensical negotiation stance. Which clearly makes what May says a nonsensical argument. No?

We have preferred status under WTO rules, and the EU can't offer anything less or risk an expensive court case they can't legally win.

France and Germany have already canvassed the non-contributors EU countries about revising down what they currently get. F and G have said they won't increase their contributions.

They need our money, a deal, and we want access, a deal.

The good or bad is subjective. What May might say is a good/bad deal i might say is rubbish and you might say is good...why are we even debating the deal when it's subjective anyway?

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

We have preferred status under WTO rules, and the EU can't offer anything less or risk an expensive court case they can't legally win.

France and Germany have already canvassed the non-contributors EU countries about revising down what they currently get. F and G have said they won't increase their contributions.

They need our money, a deal, and we want access, a deal.

The good or bad is subjective. What May might say is a good/bad deal i might say is rubbish and you might say is good...why are we even debating the deal when it's subjective anyway?

Almost exactly my point, proving what a stupid comment it is that May keeps making.

 

[Raesy92]

I am yet to see May answer a question that has not been completely scripted. When a question she is not expecting comes up she just uses one of her scripted 'answers' to try her best to mask the fact she has not got a clue.

It is quite clear why she will not debate with anyone, it's because it is a clear weakness and she will be found out.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Do you have any idea what a 'no deal' scenario would do to NI, do you actually care?

Nope, I've no idea. What would it do? Once you've explained that I'll be in a position to let you know whether I care or not.

 

[Old Skier]

Nope, I've no idea. What would it do? Once you've explained that I'll be in a position to let you know whether I care or not.

Don't be silly. He hasn't a clue what it means.

 

[MarkE]

May has no need to answer anything, when her competitors are all such a sad bunch. Just repeat the mantras and don't say too much objectionable. I'm not a dyed in the wool Tory or anything else, but vote each time on what I see as the most important issues at any given election. For me, this time it's Brexit and only May looks like she could deliver on the referendum, so that's good enough.

 

[SocketRocket]

So tell me her answer on the 'will you walk away with No Deal' because all she said in response that she'd get a deal and you have to make clear you are willing to walk away.

She made it crystal clear that No deal was better than a bad deal. What is it exactly you don't understand about the principal of no deal. If you asked me if I am going to vote Labour and I replied that I would rather stick pins in my eyes would you understand whether I would vote for them

 

[SocketRocket]

Do you have any idea what a 'no deal' scenario would do to NI, do you actually care?

It would mean they would be leaving the EU. What the hell do you think it would do?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Wouldn't failure be a bad deal rather than no deal? Success would be a good deal. Anything less than that would be a degree of success. Failure would be to agree to a bad deal.

But she isn't going to agree to a Bad Deal - Bad Deal will mean No Deal. So in May world there is no such thing as a Bad Deal that would be dire for the country. So what is the failure that will be dire if it is not No Deal. That being the No Deal that many Brexiteers seem to clamour for (though that may just be the lunatic fringe)

 

[Old Skier]

I see SILH back to the insults.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It would mean they would be leaving the EU. What the hell do you think it would do?

OK - what happens to the border and cross-border trade between UK and Eire if there is No Deal

The truth is nobody has much of a clue about what No Deal means - which rather makes it tricky to know whether or not to accept whatever Deal is reached.

It's a shambles and disgracefully we have a half a nation willing to gamble the futures of our children and grandchildren on having blue passports; less chance of having an EU27 neighbour, and increased fishing rights. Oh yes - and 'taking back control' - whatever esoteric benefits that that might have.

And on fishing - WTO trade doesn't seem that attractive given we export more than half our fishing catch and the vast majority of the Scottish 'seafood' catch goes to Spain - and under WTO rules fish/seafood exports typically attract a 35-40% tariff. Oh whoop-de-doo.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I see SILH back to the insults.

So which part of the lunatic fringe do you include yourself. Because if you ain't in it - you can't be insulted, and in any case I am interested that you think that there is no 'lunatic fringe' on the Leave side, you clearly haven't been paying that much attention.

 

[Hobbit]

So which part of the lunatic fringe do you include yourself. Because if you ain't in it - you can't be insulted, and in any case I am interested that you think that there is no 'lunatic fringe' on the Leave side, you clearly haven't been paying that much attention.

There's clearly lunatics on both sides. As I've said many, many times, you do the Remain argument no favours at all but you do go a long way to widen that divide you decry.

 

[Old Skier]

So which part of the lunatic fringe do you include yourself. Because if you ain't in it - you can't be insulted, and in any case I am interested that you think that there is no 'lunatic fringe' on the Leave side, you clearly haven't been paying that much attention.

There is no more a lunatic fringe in the leave campaign as there is in the remain campaign. Why do you continue to rant about leaving the EU and suggest that you have knowledge of what the future holds and how the negotiations will end up.

You really are a bitter bitter man.

 

[SocketRocket]

So which part of the lunatic fringe do you include yourself. Because if you ain't in it - you can't be insulted, and in any case I am interested that you think that there is no 'lunatic fringe' on the Leave side, you clearly haven't been paying that much attention.

There certainly is a Lunatic Fringe on the remain side and you typify it. You are incapable of a civilised debate and when posters respond to your rabid attacks you blame them for being Lunitics. Take a very long look at yourself as you are rapidly starting to sound deranged.

 

[SocketRocket]

OK - what happens to the border and cross-border trade between UK and Eire if there is No Deal

The truth is nobody has much of a clue about what No Deal means - which rather makes it tricky to know whether or not to accept whatever Deal is reached.

It's a shambles and disgracefully we have a half a nation willing to gamble the futures of our children and grandchildren on having blue passports; less chance of having an EU27 neighbour, and increased fishing rights. Oh yes - and 'taking back control' - whatever esoteric benefits that that might have.

And on fishing - WTO trade doesn't seem that attractive given we export more than half our fishing catch and the vast majority of the Scottish 'seafood' catch goes to Spain - and under WTO rules fish/seafood exports typically attract a 35-40% tariff. Oh whoop-de-doo.

The answer to cross border trade will be agreed by negotiation, just like the free trade agreement will. It is highly unlikely that there will be no deal and WTO (preferred status)will come about. What you are missing with the fishery industry is that the EU are taking a very large amount of fish from British fishing territories, if we take back control of these waters then Spain Et Al will not be catching these fish and our industry will be able to fish more, this will mean we wont have to import it and will be free to sell to which ever market wants to buy.

 

[SocketRocket]

I see SILH back to the insults.

He's been saving it up.