The relief of finding a lost ball.

[HankMarvin]

Tashy

Simple question where the answer will make everything clear which way to go

Do you believe you found your ball within 5 mins - it's a yes or no

All judgments are being made on what you have written so you need to stop be cryptic and just be clear about things

I think it's a bit to late to answer that question as there will only be one answer . The horse has already bolted .

 

[Orikoru]

You do realise this is a "Golf Forum" were we go on about standards and self policing etc, there is no "5 minute guess" or "depends were you're from and how you speak" in the rules, it's 5 minutes, end off.

Tashy has played enough golf to know that and as soon as he saw a couple of replies to his post he could of come straight on and explained he didn't actually time it or meant nearly 5 minutes, he didn't.

His op caused all the ridiculous replies, in your opinion is a ridiculous thread

For you to then accuse someone of mindless pendantry is a joke.

Like I put before, one man and one man alone caused the reaction and it was my mate Tashy.

Admittedly, he left it often to interpretation - he has since confirmed that the timing wasn't exact.

As Liverpoolphil says, he should probably confirm now whether he believes he was inside or outside of 5 minutes, then we could put this to bed (wishful thinking probably).

 

[Beezerk]

As Liverpoolphil says, he should probably confirm now whether he believes he was inside or outside of 5 minutes,

You could argue he's already answered that question by his actions, if you give up looking for a ball then generally you feel you've already gone over the 5 minute mark.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Any stranger reading this would think it's the High Court

 

[Old Skier]

I play with a number of guys who don't wear a watch, how do they judge the time when searching for a lost ball I wonder.

 

[Beezerk]

I play with a number of guys who don't wear a watch, how do they judge the time when searching for a lost ball I wonder.

I use shadows of the trees to tell the time.

 

[Canary_Yellow]

Any stranger reading this would think it's the High Court

I think they might also log off never to return after the first page of replies!

 

[sawtooth]

Any stranger reading this would think it's the High Court

Guilty of cheating in the second degree, he did not intend to cheat when he teed up on the 18th but emotions got the better of him and got caught up in the moment as he had a good score going. Combined with the fact that he seemingly wasn't aware of the 5 minute ruling we should be lenient.

And furthermore seems an all round top bloke with no known previous.

Just watch him carefully in future though. 😷

 

[njrose51]

15 pages! what a epic discussion! Thanks Tashy.

I think though that if we forget the main bone of contention from the OP, then there is a really good topic here and it raises some key questions about honest play, confessing after the error, living with knowledge that an error was made but not punished, knowing the rules and when to enforce them. But also, I think we have to remember that armchair judges whether for our own game or those picking faults on TV with the professionals bring little to the actual game we adore in my opinion.

Did Tashboy break the rules? judging on his OP alone, then probably yes. But no-one on this Forum can say for sure what happened. That is down to Tashboy to live with. Will we all take a little more care when searching for a missing ball next time though? Quite probably.

Also, we play this game for fun don't we? We play for the challenge, the success and the camaraderie/friendship. Our mortgages don't count on it. Lets not get too hung up on this matter.

#loveGMForum

 

[Orikoru]

You could argue he's already answered that question by his actions, if you give up looking for a ball then generally you feel you've already gone over the 5 minute mark.

Don't agree with that at all. I quite often give up on it after a lot less than that if it looks like I'm just wasting my time.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Any stranger reading this would think it's the High Court

I think it's more about personalities Gordon, 2 had a straight go at him, others then had a go at them, that goes tit for tat and escalates, others whinge about people getting a life (maybe MikeH needs to decide topics )

Some try to show reason and that gets lost in the bickering.

It's like the majority of threads now, people react to the poster more than the post and all of us are guilty of that at sometime.

Never fails our Tashy to get a reaction of some sort :rofl:

 

[Beezerk]

Don't agree with that at all. I quite often give up on it after a lot less than that if it looks like I'm just wasting my time.

That's daft mate, you're arguing for the sake of it. I know what you're saying but in this case I assumed I didn't need to point it out as Tashy obviously thought he was going to find his ball.

 

[Marshy77]

Any stranger reading this would think it's the High Court

A stranger would take up knitting rather than start playing golf with the reactions of some on here.

 

[Lazkir]

Sometimes this place make the digital spy forums look almost normal.

 

[Orikoru]

That's daft mate, you're arguing for the sake of it. I know what you're saying but in this case I assumed I didn't need to point it out as Tashy obviously thought he was going to find his ball.

Ok, you're right there, he probably had a good old look for it. Still don't know if it was 5 mins or 4 and a half though. I wasn't trying to passionately defend the guy, I just didn't think it warranted people jumping on his back and nitpicking when the 5 minutes thing wasn't really the point of the story, it was just a throwaway line. We're all going round in circles repeating ourselves now anyway.

 

[Beezerk]

I wasn't trying to passionately defend the guy,

I think you're one of his pals, I mean look at your profile pic, Tashy all over

 

[Foxholer]

Any stranger reading this would think it's the High Court

Given that the 'original' rules were defined by a society/club/company that was comprised mainly of the legal (and military) professions, that's the way ALL the Rules - and attitudes to them - are!

Up until the advent, and profusion, of ultra slow-mo cameras. much of the application of RofG has been about personal morality! Snooker is, I believe, the only other sport where such an attitude is all-pervasive! Even Cricket is not (if it ever was) so 'moral'!

 

[Tashyboy]

Tashy

Simple question where the answer will make everything clear which way to go

Do you believe you found your ball within 5 mins - it's a yes or no

All judgments are being made on what you have written so you need to stop be cryptic and just be clear about things

Phil I definately found the ball within five minutes, did I know you had five mins to look for it, of course. that's it end of conversation.

However as has been pointed out, why did I not reply to this straight away. Two reasons.

1, The resident troll was the first to answer. Like he occasionally does. Usually it is with replies like, I lost interest after the first word. Or if asked a open question like "have you ever squealed like a girl when you have found a Lost ball". The reply is no. Most of my posts are met with negativity from him. It is easier to just ignore the negative comments. Chuffed that he actually found the time to read the post though
2, and more importantly, as soon as I finished yesterday I was home, chuffed at a good round. Quick post on here, then off to the nursery to pick up two kids after clubs are out and kids seats put in car. Back to ours dinner, bath, bedtime stories and clean up then back on here to all Hell has let loose over a troll " cheat" comments. Up this morning at 05.30 feed the youngest 20 months, then the eldest 4yr old. Back in the car to drop off at home. 90 mins ( ish ) at gym to be back home for when the kids have just turned up.

So so as much as it is an important issue to some re five mins, I have a bit more on my plate that is as important
Having said that, do I know all the rules of golf. No that is why I have asked some on the GM forum. And been given a rule book on rules by golf monthly as they posed a question in there mag which I asked on here.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phil I definately found the ball within five minutes, did I know you had five mins to look for it, of course. that's it end of conversation.

However as has been pointed out, why did I not reply to this straight away. Two reasons.

1, The resident troll was the first to answer. Like he occasionally does. Usually it is with replies like, I lost interest after the first word. Or if asked a open question like "have you ever squealed like a girl when you have found a Lost ball". The reply is no. Most of my posts are met with negativity from him. It is easier to just ignore the negative comments. Chuffed that he actually found the time to read the post though
2, and more importantly, as soon as I finished yesterday I was home, chuffed at a good round. Quick post on here, then off to the nursery to pick up two kids after clubs are out and kids seats put in car. Back to ours dinner, bath, bedtime stories and clean up then back on here to all Hell has let loose over a troll " cheat" comments. Up this morning at 05.30 feed the youngest 20 months, then the eldest 4yr old. Back in the car to drop off at home. 90 mins ( ish ) at gym to be back home for when the kids have just turned up.

So so as much as it is an important issue to some re five mins, I have a bit more on my plate that is as important
Having said that, do I know all the rules of golf. No that is why I have asked some on the GM forum. And been given a rule book on rules by golf monthly as they posed a question in there mag which I asked on here.

That's good enough for me :thup:

 

[Robster59]

Phil I definately found the ball within five minutes, did I know you had five mins to look for it, of course. that's it end of conversation.

However as has been pointed out, why did I not reply to this straight away. Two reasons.

1, The resident troll was the first to answer. Like he occasionally does. Usually it is with replies like, I lost interest after the first word. Or if asked a open question like "have you ever squealed like a girl when you have found a Lost ball". The reply is no. Most of my posts are met with negativity from him. It is easier to just ignore the negative comments. Chuffed that he actually found the time to read the post though
2, and more importantly, as soon as I finished yesterday I was home, chuffed at a good round. Quick post on here, then off to the nursery to pick up two kids after clubs are out and kids seats put in car. Back to ours dinner, bath, bedtime stories and clean up then back on here to all Hell has let loose over a troll " cheat" comments. Up this morning at 05.30 feed the youngest 20 months, then the eldest 4yr old. Back in the car to drop off at home. 90 mins ( ish ) at gym to be back home for when the kids have just turned up.

So so as much as it is an important issue to some re five mins, I have a bit more on my plate that is as important
Having said that, do I know all the rules of golf. No that is why I have asked some on the GM forum. And been given a rule book on rules by golf monthly as they posed a question in there mag which I asked on here.

Thanks Tashy. 16 pages of rubbish because the usual suspect lights the blue touch paper, retires to a safe distance and giggles at the pandemonium. I remember him from GolfMagic and he was pretty much the same there.