The Open Rota
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Foxholer
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The ET does that almost every week - so No!
Oddly, Sunningdale HAS been used for International Final Qualification venue! Wonderful place to watch the guns play - and they rarely rip it up! But hardly the same conditions as they are likely to encounter on links courses!
Grant85
Head Pro
I went through this yesterday and tried to work out where 2022 would be.
Current courses seem to be;
St Andrews (2021)
Troon (2016)
Carnoustie (2018)
Muirfield (2013, probably again)
Turnberry (2009, not definitely)
Birkdale (2016)
Lytham & St Annes (2012, guess 2022)
Hoylake (2014)
Portrush (2019)
St Georges (2020)
Turnberry has not hosted since 2009 and you would think if they were going to go to Trump Turnberry then it would likely be 2022. However the R&A don't confirm their official rota and simply make one off decisions for each event.
Turnberry is a great course, but access isn't great and crowds don't tend to be large there. Likewise Carnoustie - but is obviously kept on due to the course and history of exciting events.
Hoylake wasn't on for decades prior to early 2000's. But I believe is ideally suited to larger crowds and is in a good area.
Portrush was only really added due to massive success of NI golfers. It remains to be seen whether this will get another slot in the next decade.
Anyway, my guess was that 2022 will be at Lytham and I would be amazed if they would announce Turnberry as a venue (for 2022 or later) while Trump is still president. By not naming Turnberry, there is no real contention - but as soon as they announced it, it would cause a stir and they would have to manage Trump - whether he was president or not by the time of the event.
I think Royal Aberdeen coped very well with the Scottish open and would be a good venue (again, not sure of logistics). But I doubt there is sufficient requirement to add a brand new venue - espeically with Muirfield being back in the rotation.
Current courses seem to be;
St Andrews (2021)
Troon (2016)
Carnoustie (2018)
Muirfield (2013, probably again)
Turnberry (2009, not definitely)
Birkdale (2016)
Lytham & St Annes (2012, guess 2022)
Hoylake (2014)
Portrush (2019)
St Georges (2020)
Turnberry has not hosted since 2009 and you would think if they were going to go to Trump Turnberry then it would likely be 2022. However the R&A don't confirm their official rota and simply make one off decisions for each event.
Turnberry is a great course, but access isn't great and crowds don't tend to be large there. Likewise Carnoustie - but is obviously kept on due to the course and history of exciting events.
Hoylake wasn't on for decades prior to early 2000's. But I believe is ideally suited to larger crowds and is in a good area.
Portrush was only really added due to massive success of NI golfers. It remains to be seen whether this will get another slot in the next decade.
Anyway, my guess was that 2022 will be at Lytham and I would be amazed if they would announce Turnberry as a venue (for 2022 or later) while Trump is still president. By not naming Turnberry, there is no real contention - but as soon as they announced it, it would cause a stir and they would have to manage Trump - whether he was president or not by the time of the event.
I think Royal Aberdeen coped very well with the Scottish open and would be a good venue (again, not sure of logistics). But I doubt there is sufficient requirement to add a brand new venue - espeically with Muirfield being back in the rotation.
Grant85
Head Pro
Note - their appear to be 4 venues that are no longer used that have hosted previous Opens.
Musselburgh links
Prestwick
Royal Cinque Ports (Deal)
Prince's Golf Club (Sandwich)
I assume that if these were suitable in terms of logistics or being a sufficient test, they would have been used again by now.
The last time a brand new venue was added was 1977 (Turnberry) and prior to that Birkdale in 1954.
So don't expect a new venue announced any time soon.
Musselburgh links
Prestwick
Royal Cinque Ports (Deal)
Prince's Golf Club (Sandwich)
I assume that if these were suitable in terms of logistics or being a sufficient test, they would have been used again by now.
The last time a brand new venue was added was 1977 (Turnberry) and prior to that Birkdale in 1954.
So don't expect a new venue announced any time soon.
Carpfather1
Head Pro
I just came back from a walk down the costal path following royal porthcawl would love to see the big boys there and 100%keep it links that’s what the opens about .
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No chance of Turnberry getting back on...... and nothing to do with golf 
Grant85
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No chance of Turnberry getting back on...... and nothing to do with golf
Agree - but lets be honest Trump aint exactly a picture of health. Hopefully that falls back into honourable hands in the not too distant future.
shortgame
Tour Rookie
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I think they would too, I also think to host an event of that size they would need a re-route to allow stands because there is no Chance the 18th could accommodate stands the open has.
Sadly, I think the Dunhill or maybe even the Paul Lawrie matchplay is as good an event as the men's ET could throw at KB. I don't think it has the infrastructure to hold even a Scottish open.
It still remains one of my favourite courses.
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
Yep your spot on
richart
Major Champion
Cinque Ports is 7200 off the blacks Phil. Pretty sure they could push it further back, but when the wind blows they would be bringing tees forward.
Imagine playing the back nine into a nice 30 mile an hour breeze.Royal County Down and Saunton have the quality for me.
Ndw7
Assistant Pro
Have they really? Would be great to see The Open down this part of the world! The 3 final qualifying courses you've mentioned are also superb.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
That could be for anything though eg Seniors Open, Amateur championship, Walker cup etc etc.
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I think it’s only right that The Open find a venue in Wales - Scotland have the four maybe 5 , England 4 Ireland one - Wales should imo have a venue if there is a course suitable and Porthcawl imo is
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Neither of those courses is good enough to host the Open.
I have no idea about courses in Wales but I entirely agree with your sentiment.
You need to get out more.....
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
I agree. Porthcawl is a very good option for the Open. Has loads of room in and around it. Close to the M4 for traffic.
Only thing they may have to do is make the 17th the 18th and make the 18th the 1st. This would be to allow the grandstands to be put up around the last green. The real 18th is very limited for space with the clubhouse and the beach.
They could then also clear out the large gorse areas up the course for spectator villages etc.
NWJocko
Tour Winner
They are both fantastic course but not good enough (or long enough) to hold an Open.
Even ignoring the fact they have nowhere near enough room for all the gubbins they need to put up for the event (TV, Hospitality etc etc).
Agree that one in Wales would make sense but not played any of the contenders, not sure they need to add any after that tbh......
